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I think people are just exhausted and numb to what Hollywood, etc has to offer.

by underseacables 5y ago

Animats 5y ago
I've had it with the Marvel Overextended Universe, and Star [Wars|Gate|Trek|Craft]. Time for something new.
- brundolf 5y ago
  I've had it with scripts written by corporate committees. Star Wars can be good, just not under Disney's heel.
  - kelnos 5y ago
    The thing that makes me sad is that IMO the best Star Wars film that came out since the Disney acquisition was Rogue One (even though it trampled all over the expanded universe novel Rebel Dawn, which I loved). Likely Disney views that movie as their second-worst Star Wars outing (after Solo), while I enjoyed it far more than episodes 7, 8, or 9. On the optimistic side, I absolutely love The Mandalorian (which I didn't expect, and resisted watching until after season 2 was complete), and I'm looking forward to The Book of Boba Fett as well. But I absolutely agree with you on the failure of "corporate written-by-committee". I think The Mandalorian is so great in no small part because it's run by a small number of people who really love Star Wars and have been fortunate enough to be granted near-complete creative control.
    - brundolf 5y ago
      I watched the first episode or two and wasn't that impressed. It just felt like a pretty generic action/adventure storyline with Star Wars... stuff, plastered over it in a fairly superficial way. Which is how I feel about most big franchise movies these days; they all just feel like cookie-cutter action flicks with some IP draped over top to promote the theme park and/or Fortnite tie-in. Nothing interesting or surprising ever happens. Nothing worth mentioning in terms of emotional spectrum. Even the set design - which is always very handsomely executed - is just ruthlessly on-brand. It looks precisely like "Star Wars stuff" or "Marvel stuff" or whatever, without exception, to a point where it all just becomes branded noise. Not a single thing is new or out of place. It constantly calls back and feeds into itself; nothing new under the sun. I agree that Rogue One was a little bit of an exception, at least in terms of plot/emotions. I would also put Episode 8 in that category. Maybe I'm just watching the wrong kinds of movies.
- xwolfi 5y ago
  It's fascinating to me that it lasted THAT long. I may have seen a few of the first (like Daredevil decades ago?) and I saw the "last" one, something about a giant who wanted to destroyed the universe, failed but somewhat succeeded and a bunch of weirdos had to go back in time ? I mean I don't get it, it can't be for children anymore since the entire thing started when I was a kid already and now I have kids. I'm not american and what we say here is that americans are so dumb they just rewatch the same "cape dude in underwear" over and over again, with the same story with small variations :s It must be a sort of puritan/christian gay complex or something. As for Star Wars under Disney, I find the Mandalorian surprisingly nice with its contemplative slowness, the music, the kind of out of the box new angle thing... But I guess it's the same thing, how long are we going to watch the same thing over and over again :D
- tomjen3 5y ago
  I will watch Picard season two whenever it comes out. I just ordered STG:1 on DVD, and will probably do Atlantis after that. If keeping up with the Cardashians had been what I thought it was, I would definitely be watching that too. Those aren't bad TV shows, unlike most of Marvel. I think maybe that is because they actually believe in/stand for something, as opposed to just being boobs and fights.
  - klyrs 5y ago
    > If keeping up with the Cardashians had been what I thought it was... As somebody who only consumes tv that my friends/family watch (which includes scifi and not "reality" tv), I thought there was some weird show about Cardassians for a blissful decade...
ajsnigrutin 5y ago
You mean a remake or a new release of that same movie series/tv show, you've watched when you were a kid? Basically playing for nostalgia points, but making it shittier.

I think people are just exhausted and numb to what Hollywood, etc has to offer.

Animats 5y ago

I've had it with the Marvel Overextended Universe, and Star [Wars|Gate|Trek|Craft]. Time for something new.

brundolf 5y ago
I've had it with scripts written by corporate committees. Star Wars can be good, just not under Disney's heel.
- kelnos 5y ago
  The thing that makes me sad is that IMO the best Star Wars film that came out since the Disney acquisition was Rogue One (even though it trampled all over the expanded universe novel Rebel Dawn, which I loved). Likely Disney views that movie as their second-worst Star Wars outing (after Solo), while I enjoyed it far more than episodes 7, 8, or 9. On the optimistic side, I absolutely love The Mandalorian (which I didn't expect, and resisted watching until after season 2 was complete), and I'm looking forward to The Book of Boba Fett as well. But I absolutely agree with you on the failure of "corporate written-by-committee". I think The Mandalorian is so great in no small part because it's run by a small number of people who really love Star Wars and have been fortunate enough to be granted near-complete creative control.
  - brundolf 5y ago
    I watched the first episode or two and wasn't that impressed. It just felt like a pretty generic action/adventure storyline with Star Wars... stuff, plastered over it in a fairly superficial way. Which is how I feel about most big franchise movies these days; they all just feel like cookie-cutter action flicks with some IP draped over top to promote the theme park and/or Fortnite tie-in. Nothing interesting or surprising ever happens. Nothing worth mentioning in terms of emotional spectrum. Even the set design - which is always very handsomely executed - is just ruthlessly on-brand. It looks precisely like "Star Wars stuff" or "Marvel stuff" or whatever, without exception, to a point where it all just becomes branded noise. Not a single thing is new or out of place. It constantly calls back and feeds into itself; nothing new under the sun. I agree that Rogue One was a little bit of an exception, at least in terms of plot/emotions. I would also put Episode 8 in that category. Maybe I'm just watching the wrong kinds of movies.
xwolfi 5y ago
It's fascinating to me that it lasted THAT long. I may have seen a few of the first (like Daredevil decades ago?) and I saw the "last" one, something about a giant who wanted to destroyed the universe, failed but somewhat succeeded and a bunch of weirdos had to go back in time ? I mean I don't get it, it can't be for children anymore since the entire thing started when I was a kid already and now I have kids. I'm not american and what we say here is that americans are so dumb they just rewatch the same "cape dude in underwear" over and over again, with the same story with small variations :s It must be a sort of puritan/christian gay complex or something. As for Star Wars under Disney, I find the Mandalorian surprisingly nice with its contemplative slowness, the music, the kind of out of the box new angle thing... But I guess it's the same thing, how long are we going to watch the same thing over and over again :D
tomjen3 5y ago
I will watch Picard season two whenever it comes out. I just ordered STG:1 on DVD, and will probably do Atlantis after that. If keeping up with the Cardashians had been what I thought it was, I would definitely be watching that too. Those aren't bad TV shows, unlike most of Marvel. I think maybe that is because they actually believe in/stand for something, as opposed to just being boobs and fights.
- klyrs 5y ago
  > If keeping up with the Cardashians had been what I thought it was... As somebody who only consumes tv that my friends/family watch (which includes scifi and not "reality" tv), I thought there was some weird show about Cardassians for a blissful decade...

ajsnigrutin 5y ago

You mean a remake or a new release of that same movie series/tv show, you've watched when you were a kid? Basically playing for nostalgia points, but making it shittier.