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I think calling people "anti vaxxers" when many of them are quite pro vaccines, but just anti or hesitant towards this vaccine is part of it. When you insult pe

I think calling people "anti vaxxers" when many of them are quite pro vaccines, but just anti or hesitant towards this vaccine is part of it. When you insult people and basically call them an idiot for a position that was the mainstream opinion less than a year ago is pretty ridiculous. You probably can't name many politicians or media personalities in the US that were pro vaccine a year ago. When you heard how this vaccine was going to be unsafe due to the speed it was created because Trump was encouraging them to go faster for a better part of a year you can't expect people to just think it is safe. All of these insults causes people to get defensive and defend their position loudly. If you want people to take the vaccine don't insult them. Don't accuse them of wanting to kill grandma. Don't talk down to them. For whatever reason covid has caused people to lose their ability to convince people of things. When has insulting people ever caused a change in thinking?

mint2 5y ago
> You probably can't name many politicians or media personalities in the US that were pro vaccine a year ago This is not true. politicians expressed hesitation about rushed vaccines not approved or approved under coercion when not supported by studies. They said they would gladly take one when it was authorized based on science, not politics. This is basically what the current president said in debates and he then took it very shortly after that happened, putting his money where his mouth was. Please edit your comment so that it doesn’t make an unfounded claim.
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  I wasn't as clear as I should have been so I think you are missing what I am saying. I meant to say they were hesitant over the vaccine not that they were anti vaccine. I never said you couldn't find an example. I said you could not find many. Many of the same people who were hesitant of the vaccine are now the biggest supporters. Biden and Harris both said if doctors said it was safe they would take it, but they were still pushing doubt about the safety in their statements. Here are some other examples: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/health/eua-coronavirus-vaccine-history/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/health/eua-coronavirus-vaccin... https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/521672-cuomo-public-should-be-very-skeptical-about-covid-19-vaccine https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/521672-cuomo-public-sh...
sharken 5y ago
This is one of the first comments i have seen that accurately describes a third category beyond pro-vaccine and "anti vax". I consider myself to be in this category, as in i know the vaccine helps but am at the same time against it being mandated. This is in part due to the rush to get the vaccines out the door. Reading a study that some vaccinated got infected changes nothing, when we also know it's a lot harder to get infected when you have taken the vaccine and that your chance of being hospitalized is also a lot smaller. To see that the governor of New York has been asked to step down is not making me sad, as he wants to mandate vaccines. If you don't then you are practically not part of society, which is the wrong way of approaching things.

mint2 5y ago

> You probably can't name many politicians or media personalities in the US that were pro vaccine a year ago This is not true. politicians expressed hesitation about rushed vaccines not approved or approved under coercion when not supported by studies. They said they would gladly take one when it was authorized based on science, not politics. This is basically what the current president said in debates and he then took it very shortly after that happened, putting his money where his mouth was. Please edit your comment so that it doesn’t make an unfounded claim.

_-david-_ 5y ago
I wasn't as clear as I should have been so I think you are missing what I am saying. I meant to say they were hesitant over the vaccine not that they were anti vaccine. I never said you couldn't find an example. I said you could not find many. Many of the same people who were hesitant of the vaccine are now the biggest supporters. Biden and Harris both said if doctors said it was safe they would take it, but they were still pushing doubt about the safety in their statements. Here are some other examples: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/health/eua-coronavirus-vaccine-history/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/health/eua-coronavirus-vaccin... https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/521672-cuomo-public-should-be-very-skeptical-about-covid-19-vaccine https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/521672-cuomo-public-sh...

sharken 5y ago

This is one of the first comments i have seen that accurately describes a third category beyond pro-vaccine and "anti vax". I consider myself to be in this category, as in i know the vaccine helps but am at the same time against it being mandated. This is in part due to the rush to get the vaccines out the door. Reading a study that some vaccinated got infected changes nothing, when we also know it's a lot harder to get infected when you have taken the vaccine and that your chance of being hospitalized is also a lot smaller. To see that the governor of New York has been asked to step down is not making me sad, as he wants to mandate vaccines. If you don't then you are practically not part of society, which is the wrong way of approaching things.