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Firefox: Lets remove tab groups, no one uses it Chrome: Lets add tab groups, seems like a good idea Firefox: why are users leaving?.. The constant addons bre

Firefox: Lets remove tab groups, no one uses it Chrome: Lets add tab groups, seems like a good idea Firefox: why are users leaving?.. The constant addons breakage and UI changes, feature removal. I could bare the speed difference, but these inconsistencies are just too much Still Firefox continues to be the best browser in theory

itvision 5y ago
Let's be honest - since the removal of XUL addons, all my add-ons have been working just fine. Let's stop repeating this ... thing - it's long lost its relevance and nowadays it's just a falsehood.
- guilhas 5y ago
  Until version 89 reaches ESR I will continue to use Waterfox classic with XUL addons archive. Not only is faster but I have more addons All your addons are not everyone's addons. Some people have different, or more, or more specific addons There are addons that disappeared and are not possible to do today. And maybe you can do something similar, even if clunkier or slower. But a lot of developers have moved anyway, which created holes in the ecosystem And just having to go and find replacements was difficult since it took a lot of time for addons to reach parity. And people have a day job to get on with TreeStyleTab still breaks today, sometimes the side bar disappears or is empty I had an addon that would highlight all bookmark link in all pages, including google results, and on mouse over would show the tags and description. Can you find a similar now?
- patrick451 5y ago
  In what way is it a falsehood? There is an entire class of addons that are simply impossible to create under the new paradigm. These used to work, now that don't. Firefox broke them intentionally.
  - niij 5y ago
    Do you have an example? I didn't have anything break long term, so didn't get affected (luckily)
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  the only thing that really broke for me was my favorite downloader. Everthing else had an add on for the new non-XUL api fairly quickly. I think some people just hold a grudge. I think programmers are well known for that.
soundnote 5y ago
Yup. Firefox experience: Like compact mode: Scheduled for deprecation. Find Chromium tab groups and get addicted: Oh, FF used to have tab groups and killed them. Search keyword sync via bookmarks: Scheduled to be deprecated, not functional on mobile. PWAs: Development aborted. Meanwhile Vivaldi's like "we're adding a third interface style for tab stacks" and Brave's building truly standalone revenue sources to be able to sell tinfoil. Which is not even getting into the "we need more than deplatforming" spiel - do they hear themselves?

itvision 5y ago

Let's be honest - since the removal of XUL addons, all my add-ons have been working just fine. Let's stop repeating this ... thing - it's long lost its relevance and nowadays it's just a falsehood.

guilhas 5y ago
Until version 89 reaches ESR I will continue to use Waterfox classic with XUL addons archive. Not only is faster but I have more addons All your addons are not everyone's addons. Some people have different, or more, or more specific addons There are addons that disappeared and are not possible to do today. And maybe you can do something similar, even if clunkier or slower. But a lot of developers have moved anyway, which created holes in the ecosystem And just having to go and find replacements was difficult since it took a lot of time for addons to reach parity. And people have a day job to get on with TreeStyleTab still breaks today, sometimes the side bar disappears or is empty I had an addon that would highlight all bookmark link in all pages, including google results, and on mouse over would show the tags and description. Can you find a similar now?
patrick451 5y ago
In what way is it a falsehood? There is an entire class of addons that are simply impossible to create under the new paradigm. These used to work, now that don't. Firefox broke them intentionally.
- niij 5y ago
  Do you have an example? I didn't have anything break long term, so didn't get affected (luckily)
stjohnswarts 5y ago
the only thing that really broke for me was my favorite downloader. Everthing else had an add on for the new non-XUL api fairly quickly. I think some people just hold a grudge. I think programmers are well known for that.

soundnote 5y ago

Yup. Firefox experience: Like compact mode: Scheduled for deprecation. Find Chromium tab groups and get addicted: Oh, FF used to have tab groups and killed them. Search keyword sync via bookmarks: Scheduled to be deprecated, not functional on mobile. PWAs: Development aborted. Meanwhile Vivaldi's like "we're adding a third interface style for tab stacks" and Brave's building truly standalone revenue sources to be able to sell tinfoil. Which is not even getting into the "we need more than deplatforming" spiel - do they hear themselves?