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It’s true though, the media has massively distorted the truth about covid over and over since the beginning. For the most recent egregious example, see this ex

It’s true though, the media has massively distorted the truth about covid over and over since the beginning. For the most recent egregious example, see this exchange: https://mobile.twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1421229518749044739 https://mobile.twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/142122951874...

peakaboo 5y ago
People started noticing during covid but it's been going on for a very long time. I think it's awesome to see so many people realize this now though. We need that to happen.
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BossingAround 5y ago
OP's statement leads straight to "they're out to get me," which is absolutely not helpful, and it's absolutely an indicator of a difficult hire. If I'm interviewing someone and the person is demonstrating a victim narrative, that is a huge red flag. Similarly, the inability to see shades of gray (e.g. "using MySQL is always utterly stupid, you should never use it in favor of Postgres") which OP demonstrates with their COVID statements, makes a person virtually non-employable in my book.
- fallenspec 5y ago
  > OP's statement leads straight to "they're out to get me," which is absolutely not helpful, and it's absolutely an indicator of a difficult hire. Not at all. If you've been out of work for a year and seeing your savings (if you have any) dwindle and vent on what is an internet comment sections, doesn't indicate how you are in person at all. > If I'm interviewing someone and the person is demonstrating a victim narrative, that is a huge red flag. You are ignoring the present situation entirely. Governments have put everyone's life on hold for well over a year now (we are in month 17). Statements from authorities have been contradictory, non-sensical, they have lied in some cases and some have broken their own lockdown rules (e.g. in the UK Matt Hancock which was in charge of public health IIRC was exposed as having an affair during COVID, which BTW was illegal under the lockdown rules). So many people can see it for what it is. One rule for them and one rule for the plebs. > Similarly, the inability to see shades of gray (e.g. "using MySQL is always utterly stupid, you should never use it in favor of Postgres") which OP demonstrates with their COVID statements, makes a person virtually non-employable in my book You are reading far too much into comments around COVID due to your personal bias (which btw is obvious here). Because you disagree on a particular issue doesn't not indicate someone's thinking in a different field of expertise. e.g. there are many great scientists that believe very deeply in Religion. Which as a non-believer I would think would be at odds with one another. I have personally found it very difficult to find a job during COVID as well. I am almost 40 now and it worries me that I might experience the same in the future.
  - heurisko 5y ago
    In addition to Matt Hancock, there was also the case of exemptions from quarantine for UEFA football VIPs. [1] I think it's right the UK is returning to personal responsibility, especially as many of the rules haven't seemed to be science-based e.g. you must wear a mask entering a pub, but you are allowed to remove the mask while eating seated. It's health-theatre, rather than virus prevention. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/18/vips-to-be-let-into-england-without-quarantine-to-keep-euros-final-at-wembley https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/18/vips-to-be-...
    - fallenspec 5y ago
      There were many notable people who were exposed as to exposing that we all should be lockdown while breaking the rules themselves. It is quite frustrating when I live in an area where almost everyone followed the rules. Yes there is a quite an element to theatre to the whole thing, which makes sensible discussion about the issue impossible. Which I believe is somewhat by design.
      - nate_meurer 5y ago
        > Which I believe is somewhat by design. That's a really interesting thought that had never occurred to me. Maybe somewhat akin to Steve Bannon's "flood the zone with shit" strategy.
        fallenspec 5y ago
        There is a short by Adam Curtis called "Oh Dear". You may have seen it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM The basic takeaway is that you make it impossible for the average person to keep up the thread of events and they become apathetic to it. I've also watched Adam Curtis's "Hypernormalisation". It is well worth a watch.
        nate_meurer 5y ago
loopz 5y ago
After some searching I found both old recommendations, and new ones about this explicitly [0]. The problem here is that nobody knows for sure, and someone must decide based on precautions and ongoing research. It is expected that new knowledge will make old information obsolete. An ongoing situation will also change during its course. Media just reflects this and there's no expectations of perfection. It's on what basis opinions are formed that truly matter. Anyone can make thousands of bets and congratulate themselves on 50% of them. [0] https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-says-fully-vaccinated-people-201508057.html https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-says-fully-vaccinated-people-2015...

peakaboo 5y ago

People started noticing during covid but it's been going on for a very long time. I think it's awesome to see so many people realize this now though. We need that to happen.

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BossingAround 5y ago

OP's statement leads straight to "they're out to get me," which is absolutely not helpful, and it's absolutely an indicator of a difficult hire. If I'm interviewing someone and the person is demonstrating a victim narrative, that is a huge red flag. Similarly, the inability to see shades of gray (e.g. "using MySQL is always utterly stupid, you should never use it in favor of Postgres") which OP demonstrates with their COVID statements, makes a person virtually non-employable in my book.

fallenspec 5y ago
> OP's statement leads straight to "they're out to get me," which is absolutely not helpful, and it's absolutely an indicator of a difficult hire. Not at all. If you've been out of work for a year and seeing your savings (if you have any) dwindle and vent on what is an internet comment sections, doesn't indicate how you are in person at all. > If I'm interviewing someone and the person is demonstrating a victim narrative, that is a huge red flag. You are ignoring the present situation entirely. Governments have put everyone's life on hold for well over a year now (we are in month 17). Statements from authorities have been contradictory, non-sensical, they have lied in some cases and some have broken their own lockdown rules (e.g. in the UK Matt Hancock which was in charge of public health IIRC was exposed as having an affair during COVID, which BTW was illegal under the lockdown rules). So many people can see it for what it is. One rule for them and one rule for the plebs. > Similarly, the inability to see shades of gray (e.g. "using MySQL is always utterly stupid, you should never use it in favor of Postgres") which OP demonstrates with their COVID statements, makes a person virtually non-employable in my book You are reading far too much into comments around COVID due to your personal bias (which btw is obvious here). Because you disagree on a particular issue doesn't not indicate someone's thinking in a different field of expertise. e.g. there are many great scientists that believe very deeply in Religion. Which as a non-believer I would think would be at odds with one another. I have personally found it very difficult to find a job during COVID as well. I am almost 40 now and it worries me that I might experience the same in the future.
- heurisko 5y ago
  In addition to Matt Hancock, there was also the case of exemptions from quarantine for UEFA football VIPs. [1] I think it's right the UK is returning to personal responsibility, especially as many of the rules haven't seemed to be science-based e.g. you must wear a mask entering a pub, but you are allowed to remove the mask while eating seated. It's health-theatre, rather than virus prevention. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/18/vips-to-be-let-into-england-without-quarantine-to-keep-euros-final-at-wembley https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/18/vips-to-be-...
  - fallenspec 5y ago
    There were many notable people who were exposed as to exposing that we all should be lockdown while breaking the rules themselves. It is quite frustrating when I live in an area where almost everyone followed the rules. Yes there is a quite an element to theatre to the whole thing, which makes sensible discussion about the issue impossible. Which I believe is somewhat by design.
    - nate_meurer 5y ago
      > Which I believe is somewhat by design. That's a really interesting thought that had never occurred to me. Maybe somewhat akin to Steve Bannon's "flood the zone with shit" strategy.
      - fallenspec 5y ago
        There is a short by Adam Curtis called "Oh Dear". You may have seen it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM The basic takeaway is that you make it impossible for the average person to keep up the thread of events and they become apathetic to it. I've also watched Adam Curtis's "Hypernormalisation". It is well worth a watch.
        nate_meurer 5y ago

loopz 5y ago

After some searching I found both old recommendations, and new ones about this explicitly [0]. The problem here is that nobody knows for sure, and someone must decide based on precautions and ongoing research. It is expected that new knowledge will make old information obsolete. An ongoing situation will also change during its course. Media just reflects this and there's no expectations of perfection. It's on what basis opinions are formed that truly matter. Anyone can make thousands of bets and congratulate themselves on 50% of them. [0] https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-says-fully-vaccinated-people-201508057.html https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-says-fully-vaccinated-people-2015...