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Inasmuch as I don’t want to discredit any theory without proof of their wrongness, this is so out there it’s a bit fantastical. More importantly it seems like a
by ramraj07 5y ago
Inasmuch as I don’t want to discredit any theory without proof of their wrongness, this is so out there it’s a bit fantastical. More importantly it seems like a solution in search of a problem. As one philosopher is quoted in the criticism section of the Wikipedia article on this theory: “ Pixie dust in the synapses is about as explanatorily powerful as quantum coherence in the microtubules.”
I’m not going to say Penrose should stick to stuff he knows about; after all schrodingers hypothesis about life were prescient and chilling to read even today. But if some dudes gonna make theories about things he’s not an expert in, he better make sure it’s at least slightly warranted and a bit more rigorous.
The other issue is that confluence of two disparate fields Always attracts cooky theories like this because no expert in the individual field (at least the good ones) would feel qualified to comment about the other field they have limited knowledge about, so there’s a vanishingly small number of people who can mount a real defense against this. Fields like quantum consciousness, longevity research and crypto are further fueled by stoners who think they’ve figured out the universe because they had an acid trip. So it’s even more of a futile exercise to try and correct these people.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduc...
- afiori 5y agoI always took the microtubules theory as a tentative to reconcile three opinions: the physical/biological world is merely mechanic our consciousness is based on physical phenomena our consciousness is more complex than any computer/Turing machine given that the theory feels like it is just a way not to have to change one of those belief.
- netizen-936824 5y agoOur consciousness can be based on physical phenomena without quantum handwavyness. Just look at all the mechanics that already exist within neurons, glia, and their associated proteins. Honestly I think its a bit absurd to keep looking for something else when all of that already seems pretty fking magical. It is immensely complex and we still don't fully understand it, but it doesn't seem like we need any special quantum sauce to produce our thought processes and behaviors.