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>Three rendering engines is more than enough. It is the lack of diversity in browsers that is problematic. No, it is the lack of diversity in rendering engine

by Dah00n 5y ago

>Three rendering engines is more than enough. It is the lack of diversity in browsers that is problematic. No, it is the lack of diversity in rendering engine that is problematic. When one rendering engine can dictate the web then it makes no sense to point to the rest of the browser as the point of need for more diversity. Chromium and every browser that uses it is part of the problem here. Using Brave for example is just as bad for diversity and the free web as using Chrome itself, likely worse as most users have no idea they are part of a problem even if they are aware it exists.

freediver 5y ago
I beg to differ. Google/Chrome dictates the Web, not Blink (Chrome/Chromium's rendering engine). The most popular browser and its parent company are in this position. For example Chrome may abandon Blink and switch to a new rendering engine in the future (it already did this once switching from/forking WebKit). Or if Microsoft Edge became the most popular browser in the world, then Microsoft would be in position to dictate the web. This is why we need a fast, capable, privacy-respecting, no BS, no ads or tracking browser with a sustainable business model, using whichever rendering engine (preferably one that is also well designed and fast) to come out.
- Dah00n 5y ago
  Google dictates the direction no matter if you look at blink or chromium. If Google wants to dictate a future where Brave cannot possibly do the work on chromium to implement their features because Google turned the code in a direction demanding too many development hours then they can easily do so. I completely agree with your last paragraph but using something Google in the end is controlling is closer to a honeypot than a solution. What we need is "a fast, capable, privacy-respecting, no BS, no ads or tracking browser with a sustainable business model, using whichever rendering engine (preferably one that is also well designed and fast)" on the market that isn't controlled by a big corporation like Google, Microsoft or Apple. Sure it might be doable with blink but why on earth pick a fight where the opponent basically desides the rules? It's like pissing against the wind. I very much doubt it will succeed and if it does it will likely just swap Google out with another corporate entity (like Microsoft). We need a rendering engine made by someone like Mozilla (or better) to succeed if the open web is ever going to be a reality.

by Dah00n 5y ago

freediver 5y ago

I beg to differ. Google/Chrome dictates the Web, not Blink (Chrome/Chromium's rendering engine). The most popular browser and its parent company are in this position. For example Chrome may abandon Blink and switch to a new rendering engine in the future (it already did this once switching from/forking WebKit). Or if Microsoft Edge became the most popular browser in the world, then Microsoft would be in position to dictate the web. This is why we need a fast, capable, privacy-respecting, no BS, no ads or tracking browser with a sustainable business model, using whichever rendering engine (preferably one that is also well designed and fast) to come out.

Dah00n 5y ago
Google dictates the direction no matter if you look at blink or chromium. If Google wants to dictate a future where Brave cannot possibly do the work on chromium to implement their features because Google turned the code in a direction demanding too many development hours then they can easily do so. I completely agree with your last paragraph but using something Google in the end is controlling is closer to a honeypot than a solution. What we need is "a fast, capable, privacy-respecting, no BS, no ads or tracking browser with a sustainable business model, using whichever rendering engine (preferably one that is also well designed and fast)" on the market that isn't controlled by a big corporation like Google, Microsoft or Apple. Sure it might be doable with blink but why on earth pick a fight where the opponent basically desides the rules? It's like pissing against the wind. I very much doubt it will succeed and if it does it will likely just swap Google out with another corporate entity (like Microsoft). We need a rendering engine made by someone like Mozilla (or better) to succeed if the open web is ever going to be a reality.