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I understand your frustration, but the condescending remarks are not conducive to wholesome scientific discussion. Diversity is the way nature builds robust an

I understand your frustration, but the condescending remarks are not conducive to wholesome scientific discussion. Diversity is the way nature builds robust and balanced ecosystems - AI tools that reinforce ideological homogeneity could be catastrophic, for reasons I consider self-evident. Returning to the topic at hand, and as a counterpoint to your claims, there are legitimate second and third order effects to consider regarding vaccines and the evolutionary dynamics of SARS-CoV-2. Don't take my word for it - here is peer-reviewed research from the brightest minds and top institutions in the world, raising serious concerns about approaching eradication of the virus purely through mRNA vaccines in their current form [1]. I cannot emphasize enough that the spirit of science is to question assumptions and rigorously prove hypothesis. [1] Risk of rapid evolutionary escape from biomedical interventions targeting SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (April 2021) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33909660/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33909660/

blub 5y ago
Social diversity of opinion is also to be expected. No matter what the leadership decides, there will be people that criticize it and there will be people that are strongly against it. The reasons almost don’t matter. If the leadership doesn’t have at least two plans to deal with this expected situation, then they have failed.
TomSwirly 5y ago
> I cannot emphasize enough that the spirit of science is to question assumptions and rigorously prove hypothesis. But that's not what we're getting. Instead, we're getting a large number of people who haven't spent ten minutes bothering to learn anything about the science posting obvious bullshit. How is anyone supposed to get actual science done if nearly all the "questioning" is repetitive worthless lies by people who have absolutely no interest in science at all and are simply screaming obvious lies at the top of their voices? A question I ask a lot of the vaccine deniers on my Facebook page is, "Can you give a quick explanation in your own words why COVID-19 is so good at getting past the human immune system?" No one has even tried to answer.
- thinkingemote 5y ago
  Not who you are replying to but... >How is anyone supposed to get actual science done... One would hope that scientists would not be diverted by questions by people they do not work with or know on Facebook and are able to get actual science done regardless of a minority thinks. I wonder if it's rational or a good thing to defend scientists by potentially restricting the ignorance of lay people in public places? I think many would say it's good to avoid Harm and protect lives. It's easy to be irrational to defend rationality. Edits. Oh, it could be that people are extending "follow the science" and seeing how others are not and thinking this as a kind of lack of faith. Perhaps the idea that actual scientists are being stopped doing science because of no faith in them by small numbers of the public is actually a religious thought. That actual science needs people to believe in it for it to work, and if an other doesn't believe it, they are anethema. That could have explain my feelings about the irrationality of this.

blub 5y ago

Social diversity of opinion is also to be expected. No matter what the leadership decides, there will be people that criticize it and there will be people that are strongly against it. The reasons almost don’t matter. If the leadership doesn’t have at least two plans to deal with this expected situation, then they have failed.

TomSwirly 5y ago

> I cannot emphasize enough that the spirit of science is to question assumptions and rigorously prove hypothesis. But that's not what we're getting. Instead, we're getting a large number of people who haven't spent ten minutes bothering to learn anything about the science posting obvious bullshit. How is anyone supposed to get actual science done if nearly all the "questioning" is repetitive worthless lies by people who have absolutely no interest in science at all and are simply screaming obvious lies at the top of their voices? A question I ask a lot of the vaccine deniers on my Facebook page is, "Can you give a quick explanation in your own words why COVID-19 is so good at getting past the human immune system?" No one has even tried to answer.

thinkingemote 5y ago
Not who you are replying to but... >How is anyone supposed to get actual science done... One would hope that scientists would not be diverted by questions by people they do not work with or know on Facebook and are able to get actual science done regardless of a minority thinks. I wonder if it's rational or a good thing to defend scientists by potentially restricting the ignorance of lay people in public places? I think many would say it's good to avoid Harm and protect lives. It's easy to be irrational to defend rationality. Edits. Oh, it could be that people are extending "follow the science" and seeing how others are not and thinking this as a kind of lack of faith. Perhaps the idea that actual scientists are being stopped doing science because of no faith in them by small numbers of the public is actually a religious thought. That actual science needs people to believe in it for it to work, and if an other doesn't believe it, they are anethema. That could have explain my feelings about the irrationality of this.