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Former Firefix advocate, after the plugins breakage and senseless ui changes I had to check out. Kiwi on mobile from an HN recommendation

by antman 5y ago

christophilus 5y ago
Same. I was 100% FF until they broke my AD blocker on iOS. The internet is unusable without it, so I switched to Brave. I do align philosophically with OSS, and community organization, though, so I may switch back at some point. I do think Mozilla’s executive team needs a real shakeup, though. Edit: haven’t heard of Kiwi. Looks interesting. Why’d you land on that vs Brave or whatever else?
- foepys 5y ago
  I was under the impression that Apple doesn't allow ad blockers but only request filters that are maintained by the OS and have an upper limit. How can one browser be better than another if that's true?
  - christophilus 5y ago
    I don’t know, but Brave on iOS works very well. I can watch YouTube with no ads (and even a one-click button to download for offline viewing/ listening). Websites load quickly, with no ads that I can see, except in the rare cases where the ads are selfhosted.
    - Kye 5y ago
      They both use Safari's engine. There shouldn't be any difference in performance or support for features.
- antman 5y ago
  I am on Android, and Kiwi Android accepts desktop Chrome’s plugins.
The_rationalist 5y ago
Kiwi is the best android browser, period
denton-scratch 5y ago
> senseless ui changes This is what annoys me most. And most of all, UI changes that they've made to promote features I don't want; Pocket, Sync. I shouldn't have to dive into about:config to make a useless UI component disappear (after googling to find out what setting I need to fix). Sync should not default to storing my data on Mozilla servers. The sync icon shouldn't appear unless I've configured Sync. There should be a single option in Preferences to disable ALL suggestions. DoH is a rotten idea. Or at least, it's not ready for prime-time; it's less secure than plain old DNS (through a local recursor). Dropping support for ALSA output also got my back up; I won't have Poetteringware on my system. I'd pay money for a browser that only connects to the internet when I tell it to; doesn't care what I'm interested in; and whose devs are responsive to (paying) user demand. I'll go on using FF until I can no longer crowbar it to meet my requirements. Then it will disappear in my rearview mirror. It's very sad; Mozilla made maybe two good products, FF and Thunderbird. They dropped Tbird (which I love), and they're trying to wreck FF. I wish I knew what cock-eyed incentives are making Mozilla behave this way.

Former Firefix advocate, after the plugins breakage and senseless ui changes I had to check out. Kiwi on mobile from an HN recommendation

by antman 5y ago

Former Firefix advocate, after the plugins breakage and senseless ui changes I had to check out. Kiwi on mobile from an HN recommendation

christophilus 5y ago

Same. I was 100% FF until they broke my AD blocker on iOS. The internet is unusable without it, so I switched to Brave. I do align philosophically with OSS, and community organization, though, so I may switch back at some point. I do think Mozilla’s executive team needs a real shakeup, though. Edit: haven’t heard of Kiwi. Looks interesting. Why’d you land on that vs Brave or whatever else?

foepys 5y ago
I was under the impression that Apple doesn't allow ad blockers but only request filters that are maintained by the OS and have an upper limit. How can one browser be better than another if that's true?
- christophilus 5y ago
  I don’t know, but Brave on iOS works very well. I can watch YouTube with no ads (and even a one-click button to download for offline viewing/ listening). Websites load quickly, with no ads that I can see, except in the rare cases where the ads are selfhosted.
  - Kye 5y ago
    They both use Safari's engine. There shouldn't be any difference in performance or support for features.
antman 5y ago
I am on Android, and Kiwi Android accepts desktop Chrome’s plugins.

The_rationalist 5y ago

Kiwi is the best android browser, period

denton-scratch 5y ago

> senseless ui changes This is what annoys me most. And most of all, UI changes that they've made to promote features I don't want; Pocket, Sync. I shouldn't have to dive into about:config to make a useless UI component disappear (after googling to find out what setting I need to fix). Sync should not default to storing my data on Mozilla servers. The sync icon shouldn't appear unless I've configured Sync. There should be a single option in Preferences to disable ALL suggestions. DoH is a rotten idea. Or at least, it's not ready for prime-time; it's less secure than plain old DNS (through a local recursor). Dropping support for ALSA output also got my back up; I won't have Poetteringware on my system. I'd pay money for a browser that only connects to the internet when I tell it to; doesn't care what I'm interested in; and whose devs are responsive to (paying) user demand. I'll go on using FF until I can no longer crowbar it to meet my requirements. Then it will disappear in my rearview mirror. It's very sad; Mozilla made maybe two good products, FF and Thunderbird. They dropped Tbird (which I love), and they're trying to wreck FF. I wish I knew what cock-eyed incentives are making Mozilla behave this way.