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great! it's 1:30 am here and I'm up for a flame war. So I will argue that Tunisia is safer than USA because 1) guns are illegal 2) police is not racist. BTW I t

by slim 5y ago

great! it's 1:30 am here and I'm up for a flame war. So I will argue that Tunisia is safer than USA because 1) guns are illegal 2) police is not racist. BTW I traveled to USA, did you travel to Tunisia ?

csomar 5y ago
> guns are illegal Yeah that worked for Brazil and other countries. > police is not racist Sure they are. You are likely to get away without a ticket, an accident or even an arrest if you correlate with the guys. It just happens that the police has a bunch from everywhere. Let's not pretend that Tunisia's police is not as corrupt as it can be.
- slim 5y ago
  It's corrupt, maybe sometimes regionalist (which I'm not sure I agree with) but not racist. Like someone is not treated differently because his skin is dark for example. They are generally not polite with anybody regardless of their "race".
  - hutzlibu 5y ago
    Well yes, a police being unfriendly to anyone is probably better than a police being unfriendly only to certain skin colors or status. I remember travelling in Morocco (and also western sahara), where the police was very friendly with me. But I was a western tourist and the police was ordered by the king to be very friendly to tourists. From the locals I heard different stories.
    - csomar 5y ago
      Same in Tunisia, and honestly I'm quite for it. In the Philippines, the police doesn't care about the tourists. The locals sees that and as a result tourists get mugged a "lot". I had my phone stolen and the police seemed to "enjoy it". A tourist is very unlikely to be mugged in Tunisia (comparing to a Tunisian person) because the police is more reactive when it comes to tourists. As a result you have a country of 11.5 million and 9.5 million tourists in 2019 despite all the crap that the country is going through.
      - hutzlibu 5y ago
        So do you think the police treats tourists worse in Philippines, or all equally bad? (except the local powerclique) In either way, I rather have a police treating all people with respect.
- King-Aaron 5y ago
  > Yeah that worked for Brazil and other countries. Hello from Australia, where guns are very restricted. It works well, thank you. In fact it works well in more counties than it doesn't.
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  - NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
    You're assuming causation, but a careful look makes the situation much more muddied. In Australia, for instance, violent crime was on the downwards trend (like in the developed world generally) before strict gun laws. It continued on that trend after implementation.
  - wigado 5y ago
    It works well at keeping the populace from armed resistance to an authoritarian government.
lnxg33k1 5y ago
Do your school have shooting drills?
throwaway984393 5y ago
I know nothing about Tunisia, but worth noting that safety in the USA is extremely varied, depending on where you live, what color your skin is. We have some of the most dangerous places in the world in the USA, and some of the safest. It's a big, weird country.
whoaisme 5y ago
If we're going to argue on such a stupid level, Tunisia is a hellscape compared to the US because 1)Tunisia is such a great place that people who are angry and self immolate are political heroes and not tragic loss of mentally unstable life. Let's not pretend that just about anyone in Tunisia would kill to live in the West and people in the West don't know where Tunisia is because Tunisia doesn't matter as long as the islamist nuts are not in control. Of course you travlled to the west and of course it's safe to assume you're talking to someone who sees absolutely no reason to step foot in that place because that is most people in the west even if I might not be. It's hilarious how the way you frame your argument makes it clear which place is better to live but your national pride prevents you from accepting a self evident fact. I don't have to travel to south Africa to know that place is a hell hole too, what an asinine argument.

by slim 5y ago

csomar 5y ago

> guns are illegal Yeah that worked for Brazil and other countries. > police is not racist Sure they are. You are likely to get away without a ticket, an accident or even an arrest if you correlate with the guys. It just happens that the police has a bunch from everywhere. Let's not pretend that Tunisia's police is not as corrupt as it can be.

slim 5y ago
It's corrupt, maybe sometimes regionalist (which I'm not sure I agree with) but not racist. Like someone is not treated differently because his skin is dark for example. They are generally not polite with anybody regardless of their "race".
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  Well yes, a police being unfriendly to anyone is probably better than a police being unfriendly only to certain skin colors or status. I remember travelling in Morocco (and also western sahara), where the police was very friendly with me. But I was a western tourist and the police was ordered by the king to be very friendly to tourists. From the locals I heard different stories.
  - csomar 5y ago
    Same in Tunisia, and honestly I'm quite for it. In the Philippines, the police doesn't care about the tourists. The locals sees that and as a result tourists get mugged a "lot". I had my phone stolen and the police seemed to "enjoy it". A tourist is very unlikely to be mugged in Tunisia (comparing to a Tunisian person) because the police is more reactive when it comes to tourists. As a result you have a country of 11.5 million and 9.5 million tourists in 2019 despite all the crap that the country is going through.
    - hutzlibu 5y ago
      So do you think the police treats tourists worse in Philippines, or all equally bad? (except the local powerclique) In either way, I rather have a police treating all people with respect.
King-Aaron 5y ago
> Yeah that worked for Brazil and other countries. Hello from Australia, where guns are very restricted. It works well, thank you. In fact it works well in more counties than it doesn't.
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- NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
  You're assuming causation, but a careful look makes the situation much more muddied. In Australia, for instance, violent crime was on the downwards trend (like in the developed world generally) before strict gun laws. It continued on that trend after implementation.
- wigado 5y ago
  It works well at keeping the populace from armed resistance to an authoritarian government.

lnxg33k1 5y ago

Do your school have shooting drills?

throwaway984393 5y ago

I know nothing about Tunisia, but worth noting that safety in the USA is extremely varied, depending on where you live, what color your skin is. We have some of the most dangerous places in the world in the USA, and some of the safest. It's a big, weird country.

whoaisme 5y ago

If we're going to argue on such a stupid level, Tunisia is a hellscape compared to the US because 1)Tunisia is such a great place that people who are angry and self immolate are political heroes and not tragic loss of mentally unstable life. Let's not pretend that just about anyone in Tunisia would kill to live in the West and people in the West don't know where Tunisia is because Tunisia doesn't matter as long as the islamist nuts are not in control. Of course you travlled to the west and of course it's safe to assume you're talking to someone who sees absolutely no reason to step foot in that place because that is most people in the west even if I might not be. It's hilarious how the way you frame your argument makes it clear which place is better to live but your national pride prevents you from accepting a self evident fact. I don't have to travel to south Africa to know that place is a hell hole too, what an asinine argument.