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Didn't say I was offended, but let me elaborate on that part, because I think some guys get confused on what's offensive. Look, I like guys. I like it when guy

by jauer 5y ago

Didn't say I was offended, but let me elaborate on that part, because I think some guys get confused on what's offensive. Look, I like guys. I like it when guys appreciate my appearance. They have to look at me to do so. I'm not even offended when they mutter an "mmm hmm" or whatever. The offensive part comes when someone, no matter gender or sexuality, express their appreciation (or attempt to demonstrate power over me) in an manner that hijacks my attention or disrupts my activities. They do this by: 1. stopping at the end of an aisle, looking you up and down, and staring at $BODY_PART for several seconds. 2. Initiating small-talk from a non-interpersonal distance and being persistent about it if you don't respond (there's a difference in expression and tone vs. being neighborly or whatever). There's a difference between "hi!" or "excuse me" as you move past and "dang girl, how you doing?" 3. Making comments and then following you around (sometimes continuing to comment unless you stop and say _something_ to sooth their ego). re: How many gay: I have yet to have a gay guy hit on me, or check me out. Some do judge my outfits. I have a reply elsewhere on the difference between normal perception, judging clothing, and "male gaze" (which TBH should be called "aggressive sexualized gaze" for precision and to avoid discussions like this, even though the shorter form is precise enough. re: How many male: I dunno, the masc-presenting trans people I know are too self-conscious about appearing creepy to engage in these behaviors. So are most of the techies I run into :) The straight trans-masc guys I know are also tend to fit in the "def dudes that appreciate but aren't creepy about it" category.

qPM9l3XJrF 5y ago
Fair points, but I'm not sure how this ties in with twitter's image cropping algorithm. Not saying chest crops are ideal, but IMO twitter has other issues which are at least 100x more important that they should be focused on. If you really can't handle the way the image is highlighting your chest you can always crop your chest out of the image before uploading.
IG_Semmelweiss 5y ago
I'll say something that i hope can be read objectively (2) thats a feature, not a bug. What you are really complaining is that you dont get a curated list of males that have (a) mastered finesse or (b) have natural beauty. However when you change the context (change supermarket with award gala for doctors) women do change their reaction to male encounters, because they evaluate every male as an potential partner instead of a waste of time. That's why men with no finesse or good looks, but in the right context, will get far with women. Im not saying that's you. And i abstain from judging either party. My point is that context matters. Which gets me to my next point. In life, there is always an element of volatility. Some days you are playing a sport in which you are very talented but you are still losing. Its just a bad day. In those days, you dont complain that the opposing player is playing better than you. You try your best and then move on. Males without finesse or good looks are such bad days. They are a fact of life. We want to wish them away, but that's utopia. Nature is full of guys that just don't have it. We cant magically wave away stupid, or clueless. The gene pool is diverse for a reason. Instead focus on the positive. You have good looks. You are in the competition. Make the best out of it. I've personally been hit on by gay guys. Some have come on rather strongly, and i have gotten some of the looks you describe. I am hopelessly straight, and sometimes even uncomfortable, but I smile, say thank you/no sorry, and move on with my day.

by jauer 5y ago

qPM9l3XJrF 5y ago

Fair points, but I'm not sure how this ties in with twitter's image cropping algorithm. Not saying chest crops are ideal, but IMO twitter has other issues which are at least 100x more important that they should be focused on. If you really can't handle the way the image is highlighting your chest you can always crop your chest out of the image before uploading.

IG_Semmelweiss 5y ago

I'll say something that i hope can be read objectively (2) thats a feature, not a bug. What you are really complaining is that you dont get a curated list of males that have (a) mastered finesse or (b) have natural beauty. However when you change the context (change supermarket with award gala for doctors) women do change their reaction to male encounters, because they evaluate every male as an potential partner instead of a waste of time. That's why men with no finesse or good looks, but in the right context, will get far with women. Im not saying that's you. And i abstain from judging either party. My point is that context matters. Which gets me to my next point. In life, there is always an element of volatility. Some days you are playing a sport in which you are very talented but you are still losing. Its just a bad day. In those days, you dont complain that the opposing player is playing better than you. You try your best and then move on. Males without finesse or good looks are such bad days. They are a fact of life. We want to wish them away, but that's utopia. Nature is full of guys that just don't have it. We cant magically wave away stupid, or clueless. The gene pool is diverse for a reason. Instead focus on the positive. You have good looks. You are in the competition. Make the best out of it. I've personally been hit on by gay guys. Some have come on rather strongly, and i have gotten some of the looks you describe. I am hopelessly straight, and sometimes even uncomfortable, but I smile, say thank you/no sorry, and move on with my day.