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you can cite me. I live here. And I travelled a lot

by slim 5y ago

whoaisme 5y ago
I live in the US and I travel a lot, so I guess you can cite me as well when I say the idea that Tunisia is anything like the West is Lloyd thinking he has a chance with Mary. I mean it's really nice that your nation is stumbling toward a functioning democracy and all it took was a guy on fire and bunch of assassinations but get real lol
- thereare5lights 5y ago
  How does Tunisia compare with say Alabama or Mississippi? edit: looks like my question hit a nerve with some people?
  - caslon 5y ago
    Better! Life expectancy at birth (in years): Alabama: 75.1 Mississippi: 74.6 Tunisia: 76.7
  - sunshineforever 5y ago
    My experience of living in the south after growing up elsewhere was absolutely a feeling of being sidelined from the full opportunity previously known to me. Its a bit like being in a hole. Everything is cheaper, including wages. Meaning its harder to leave than to enter.
    - selimthegrim 5y ago
      I think the bigger problem is people just not taking you or natives there seriously. I could write a book on all the shenanigans faculty try to pull on people who they think haven't been to "real" R1 universities elsewhere, for example, and think they can get away with. NB: I live in Louisiana and my brother works for an international NGO but had based himself in Tunisia. He was supposed to fly back there Monday but delayed his flight a week. My friend was supposed to visit Yassine Ayari and she ended up arriving at his house right after he was arrested.
  - whoaisme 5y ago
    The poorest parts of those states are paradise in comparison to Kairouan or Kasserine, not to mention Tunisia in general. The point you are trying to make is obvious but it's a facile point. It's too bad people here get so butthurt about acknowledging that wow a really rich nation like the US is a really nice place to live compared to a country like Tunisia. Are we so PC that obvious reality is going to be debated? Good god.
- slim 5y ago
  great! it's 1:30 am here and I'm up for a flame war. So I will argue that Tunisia is safer than USA because 1) guns are illegal 2) police is not racist. BTW I traveled to USA, did you travel to Tunisia ?
  - csomar 5y ago
    > guns are illegal Yeah that worked for Brazil and other countries. > police is not racist Sure they are. You are likely to get away without a ticket, an accident or even an arrest if you correlate with the guys. It just happens that the police has a bunch from everywhere. Let's not pretend that Tunisia's police is not as corrupt as it can be.
    - slim 5y ago
      It's corrupt, maybe sometimes regionalist (which I'm not sure I agree with) but not racist. Like someone is not treated differently because his skin is dark for example. They are generally not polite with anybody regardless of their "race".
      - hutzlibu 5y ago
        Well yes, a police being unfriendly to anyone is probably better than a police being unfriendly only to certain skin colors or status. I remember travelling in Morocco (and also western sahara), where the police was very friendly with me. But I was a western tourist and the police was ordered by the king to be very friendly to tourists. From the locals I heard different stories.
        csomar 5y ago
        Same in Tunisia, and honestly I'm quite for it. In the Philippines, the police doesn't care about the tourists. The locals sees that and as a result tourists get mugged a "lot". I had my phone stolen and the police seemed to "enjoy it". A tourist is very unlikely to be mugged in Tunisia (comparing to a Tunisian person) because the police is more reactive when it comes to tourists. As a result you have a country of 11.5 million and 9.5 million tourists in 2019 despite all the crap that the country is going through.
- csomar 5y ago
  Nobody said Tunisia is anything like the West. He claimed that it is "as safe as any Western Country". If we go by homicide rate, Tunisia's is lower than the US.
  - honzzz 5y ago
    It seems incorrect to use US homicide rate as an argument when talking about being "as safe as any Western Country". US is an outlier in that regard [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...
  - whoaisme 5y ago
    Being more safe than the lowest hanging fruit is different than being as safe as any of the fruits. The fact that someone has to explain that do you is funny.
- jeanloolz 5y ago
  Really depends which metric you're looking at when measuring safety to be honnest. Granted US have some of the richest and safest places in the world, they also have plenty of other places straight from a 3rd world country. The US approach to health is terrible compared to many other countries. Homicide rate is much higher. If you think USA is politically safe, January 6th would like a word with you.
  - whoaisme 5y ago
    That's kind of a bullshit answer. I didn't say the USA is politically safe, I said the USA is politically safer than Tunisia, which come on is self evident. It's weird how you say the US has parts that are like a 3rd world country but the fact that Tunisia actually is a 3rd world country doesn't seem relevant haha.

you can cite me. I live here. And I travelled a lot

by slim 5y ago

you can cite me. I live here. And I travelled a lot

I live in the US and I travel a lot, so I guess you can cite me as well when I say the idea that Tunisia is anything like the West is Lloyd thinking he has a chance with Mary. I mean it's really nice that your nation is stumbling toward a functioning democracy and all it took was a guy on fire and bunch of assassinations but get real lol

thereare5lights 5y ago
How does Tunisia compare with say Alabama or Mississippi? edit: looks like my question hit a nerve with some people?
- caslon 5y ago
  Better! Life expectancy at birth (in years): Alabama: 75.1 Mississippi: 74.6 Tunisia: 76.7
- sunshineforever 5y ago
  My experience of living in the south after growing up elsewhere was absolutely a feeling of being sidelined from the full opportunity previously known to me. Its a bit like being in a hole. Everything is cheaper, including wages. Meaning its harder to leave than to enter.
  - selimthegrim 5y ago
    I think the bigger problem is people just not taking you or natives there seriously. I could write a book on all the shenanigans faculty try to pull on people who they think haven't been to "real" R1 universities elsewhere, for example, and think they can get away with. NB: I live in Louisiana and my brother works for an international NGO but had based himself in Tunisia. He was supposed to fly back there Monday but delayed his flight a week. My friend was supposed to visit Yassine Ayari and she ended up arriving at his house right after he was arrested.
- whoaisme 5y ago
  The poorest parts of those states are paradise in comparison to Kairouan or Kasserine, not to mention Tunisia in general. The point you are trying to make is obvious but it's a facile point. It's too bad people here get so butthurt about acknowledging that wow a really rich nation like the US is a really nice place to live compared to a country like Tunisia. Are we so PC that obvious reality is going to be debated? Good god.
slim 5y ago
great! it's 1:30 am here and I'm up for a flame war. So I will argue that Tunisia is safer than USA because 1) guns are illegal 2) police is not racist. BTW I traveled to USA, did you travel to Tunisia ?
- csomar 5y ago
  > guns are illegal Yeah that worked for Brazil and other countries. > police is not racist Sure they are. You are likely to get away without a ticket, an accident or even an arrest if you correlate with the guys. It just happens that the police has a bunch from everywhere. Let's not pretend that Tunisia's police is not as corrupt as it can be.
  - slim 5y ago
    It's corrupt, maybe sometimes regionalist (which I'm not sure I agree with) but not racist. Like someone is not treated differently because his skin is dark for example. They are generally not polite with anybody regardless of their "race".
    - hutzlibu 5y ago
      Well yes, a police being unfriendly to anyone is probably better than a police being unfriendly only to certain skin colors or status. I remember travelling in Morocco (and also western sahara), where the police was very friendly with me. But I was a western tourist and the police was ordered by the king to be very friendly to tourists. From the locals I heard different stories.
      - csomar 5y ago
        Same in Tunisia, and honestly I'm quite for it. In the Philippines, the police doesn't care about the tourists. The locals sees that and as a result tourists get mugged a "lot". I had my phone stolen and the police seemed to "enjoy it". A tourist is very unlikely to be mugged in Tunisia (comparing to a Tunisian person) because the police is more reactive when it comes to tourists. As a result you have a country of 11.5 million and 9.5 million tourists in 2019 despite all the crap that the country is going through.
csomar 5y ago
Nobody said Tunisia is anything like the West. He claimed that it is "as safe as any Western Country". If we go by homicide rate, Tunisia's is lower than the US.
- honzzz 5y ago
  It seems incorrect to use US homicide rate as an argument when talking about being "as safe as any Western Country". US is an outlier in that regard [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...
- whoaisme 5y ago
  Being more safe than the lowest hanging fruit is different than being as safe as any of the fruits. The fact that someone has to explain that do you is funny.
jeanloolz 5y ago
Really depends which metric you're looking at when measuring safety to be honnest. Granted US have some of the richest and safest places in the world, they also have plenty of other places straight from a 3rd world country. The US approach to health is terrible compared to many other countries. Homicide rate is much higher. If you think USA is politically safe, January 6th would like a word with you.
- whoaisme 5y ago
  That's kind of a bullshit answer. I didn't say the USA is politically safe, I said the USA is politically safer than Tunisia, which come on is self evident. It's weird how you say the US has parts that are like a 3rd world country but the fact that Tunisia actually is a 3rd world country doesn't seem relevant haha.