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Not sure why you got downvotes but 100 percent Australia's slow ass Vax rollout is the result of a "conservative" government. Though they are closer to resembli

Not sure why you got downvotes but 100 percent Australia's slow ass Vax rollout is the result of a "conservative" government. Though they are closer to resembling an authoritarian corprotocracy rather than anything truly conservative or liberal.

mikelward 5y ago
I'm guessing because vaccinations are higher in several countries (UK, Germany, Israel, ?) where there are conservative governments. (And Trump did order a bunch of vaccines in the US.) So yes, probably because of this conservative government. Even because of these conservative governments (State and Federal). But not simply because of a conservative government.
Overton-Window 5y ago
Because progressive governments all over the world dropped the ball too. Didn't hear anyone attributing Australia's success to the conservative government when the country was being heralded as a miracle just a few months ago.
- kwyjobojoe 5y ago
  If anything Australia's success was in spite of the federal government. Quarantine is a federal responsibility, and they keep shirking it just so they can blame state governments when covid escapes quarantine.
  - legostormtroopr 5y ago
    And health is a state responsibility - yet people were all too willing to throw Scotty from Marketing under the bus on that. The fact is the Australian federation model has an odd separation of responsibilities which makes this challenge uniquely difficult for Australia.
    - jackvalentine 5y ago
      > And health is a state responsibility - yet people were all too willing to throw Scotty from Marketing under the bus on that. The state governments haven't failed on health though? The federal government explicitly declined to let the states run the vaccination program in the way that they wanted and instead went GP-first (GPs being beholden effectively to the feds).
    - octodog 5y ago
      > And health is a state responsibility - yet people were all too willing to throw Scotty from Marketing under the bus on that. This is a nothing statement. The state based health services have generally been very well run, with the exception of contact tracing in Victoria during 2020. The federal health responsibilities (vaccines, quarantine and PPE provisioning) have all been spectacular failures.
guidedlight 5y ago
New Zealand is in exactly the same boat as Australia. Being a conservative government has nothing to do with the slow Vax rollout. Over-reliance on AstraZeneca is to blame with no plan B. NZ planned to use Australia’s AstraZeneca vaccines too, and has since dumped that plan altogether, has been scrapping together whatever Pfizer it can get and recently found a supply of the US’s unwanted J&J vaccines.

mikelward 5y ago

I'm guessing because vaccinations are higher in several countries (UK, Germany, Israel, ?) where there are conservative governments. (And Trump did order a bunch of vaccines in the US.) So yes, probably because of this conservative government. Even because of these conservative governments (State and Federal). But not simply because of a conservative government.

Overton-Window 5y ago

Because progressive governments all over the world dropped the ball too. Didn't hear anyone attributing Australia's success to the conservative government when the country was being heralded as a miracle just a few months ago.

kwyjobojoe 5y ago
If anything Australia's success was in spite of the federal government. Quarantine is a federal responsibility, and they keep shirking it just so they can blame state governments when covid escapes quarantine.
- legostormtroopr 5y ago
  And health is a state responsibility - yet people were all too willing to throw Scotty from Marketing under the bus on that. The fact is the Australian federation model has an odd separation of responsibilities which makes this challenge uniquely difficult for Australia.
  - jackvalentine 5y ago
    > And health is a state responsibility - yet people were all too willing to throw Scotty from Marketing under the bus on that. The state governments haven't failed on health though? The federal government explicitly declined to let the states run the vaccination program in the way that they wanted and instead went GP-first (GPs being beholden effectively to the feds).
  - octodog 5y ago
    > And health is a state responsibility - yet people were all too willing to throw Scotty from Marketing under the bus on that. This is a nothing statement. The state based health services have generally been very well run, with the exception of contact tracing in Victoria during 2020. The federal health responsibilities (vaccines, quarantine and PPE provisioning) have all been spectacular failures.

guidedlight 5y ago

New Zealand is in exactly the same boat as Australia. Being a conservative government has nothing to do with the slow Vax rollout. Over-reliance on AstraZeneca is to blame with no plan B. NZ planned to use Australia’s AstraZeneca vaccines too, and has since dumped that plan altogether, has been scrapping together whatever Pfizer it can get and recently found a supply of the US’s unwanted J&J vaccines.