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How has he not been impeached already? https://nypost.com/2021/06/15/cuomo-nursing-home-order-caused-more-deaths-task-force/ https://nypost.com/2021/06/15/cuom

How has he not been impeached already? https://nypost.com/2021/06/15/cuomo-nursing-home-order-caused-more-deaths-task-force/ https://nypost.com/2021/06/15/cuomo-nursing-home-order-cause... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/04/nyregion/cuomo-nursing-home-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/04/nyregion/cuomo-nursing-ho...

misiti3780 5y ago
The same reason SF elected Chesa Boudin. NY's best days are behind it.
- fnord77 5y ago
  Chesa got 14% of the vote. And my gut feeling on city sentiment is right, he’s going to get recalled.
  - iammisc 5y ago
    is this true? How is one elected with 14% of the vote?
    - PhineasRex 5y ago
      It's not true. He got 50.8% of the vote. Even if you just look at the first round of IRV he got 35% of first-choice votes (https://ballotpedia.org/District_Attorney_election_in_San_Francisco,_California_(2019) https://ballotpedia.org/District_Attorney_election_in_San_Fr...)
      - iammisc 5y ago
        Thanks for the source. Even if I were to try the best interpretation of the claim above, which would be that Boudin got 14% of the vote in the first round of a ranked choice scheem, that falls flat. Boudin was the first choice of a plurality of the city. This claim falls extremely flat.
xkeysc0re 5y ago
The Democratic Machine is very much alive in the Empire State
ezekg 5y ago
Honestly, I was pointing out these "conspiracy theories" back in 2020 and nobody cared then and frankly nobody cares now. Complacency and apathy of The People -- that's how he's not impeached. The same goes for many other representatives.
- mshanowitz 5y ago
  Are you implying that the NY Times is promoting conspiracy theories?
  - Akronymus 5y ago
    Rather implying that these were called conspiracy theories until no longer convenient to hide them.
- giantg2 5y ago
  I would add that it's mostly tribalism and avoiding cognitive dissonance. Democrats were calling for Desantis' head because he was thought to be cooking the numbers. Republicans are calling for Coumo's head because he was cooking the numbers. In general, people ignore things that don't fit, and seek out things that do fit, their existing world view.
  - iammisc 5y ago
    > Democrats were calling for Desantis' head because he was thought to be cooking the numbers. Republicans are calling for Coumo's head because he was cooking the numbers. Except, rational people can see that someone being 'thought to cook the numbers' and someone 'cooking the numbers' are wholly different things and only one 'side' worthy of condemnation in this instance.
    - lesuorac 5y ago
      NY isn't that happy with Coumo. Less-so for registered democrats but he's still not winning re-election which is about as accountable as politicians seem to be. https://lmgtfy.app/?q=democrats+calling+for+cuomo+to+resign https://lmgtfy.app/?q=democrats+calling+for+cuomo+to+resign https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/03/19/new-poll-suggests-majority-of-new-yorkers-say-gov-cuomo-should-resign/?sh=9eae1721f33e https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/03/19/new-poll-s...
the_lonely_road 5y ago
I thought those links would be about all the sexual assault allegations that somehow disappeared with no consequences. I had forgotten about all about the nursing home thing. How is this guy still in office?!?
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  He is a high level career politicians and therefore has friends in the right places so the procedural things that need to happen for him to be impeached will simply not happen unless there's a reason. The party will depose him eventually because they don't want people known to have those skeletons in their closet but it will either happen quietly later (i.e. he won't seek further political office and will get a cushy board job somewhere), or if in the near future the party needs to look like it's tough on incompetence or tough on sexual misconduct he'll be the sacrificial lamb. Welcome to single party state politics.
  - nerdponx 5y ago
    Also his last re-election was a joke, "somehow" his only primary challenger was a nobody and literally not a politician, so he won that handily, and then beat his Republican opponent more or less on the grounds of being not-a-Republican. It sucks.
    - landemva 5y ago
      Is it time to move? Stop consenting.
      - nerdponx 5y ago
        Not everyone has the luxury of being able to move, and a lot of places are worse anyway.
      - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
        The last thing anywhere else needs are people who have NY politics within their overton window.
JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> How has he not been impeached already? Simple answer? He's delivering on policy. Legalised weed. Election reform. Ex-convict rights reforms. New tax package. Much of this was gridlocked. Magically, the grease hit the wheels when impeachment came into focus. None of this will win him another term. But he's functionally useful and not showing signs of becoming an albatross on the party.
- giantg2 5y ago
  Do you have more info on why it was gridlocked? I thought many of these initiatives passed by wide margins, like 2:1 for weed.
  - PhineasRex 5y ago
    If you really want to know look know further than Cuomo's mismanagement of the governor's office (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-cuomo-misconduct-allegations.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-cuomo-miscond...)
  - bradleyjg 5y ago
    There’s was infighting over how to divide up the financial benefits of legalization.
- bradleyjg 5y ago
  I could see him winning another term. If the only candidate to run against him in the primary is someone with little to no prior political experience, endorsed by AOC—-I can definitely see him being renominated by default.
- PhineasRex 5y ago
  Those things were deadlocked by his office. The legislature had tried legalizing weird years ago, for example. His office is notoriously dysfunctional and only gets around to doing anything when he needs a political win.
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iammisc 5y ago
It's just (d)ifferent.

misiti3780 5y ago

The same reason SF elected Chesa Boudin. NY's best days are behind it.

fnord77 5y ago
Chesa got 14% of the vote. And my gut feeling on city sentiment is right, he’s going to get recalled.
- iammisc 5y ago
  is this true? How is one elected with 14% of the vote?
  - PhineasRex 5y ago
    It's not true. He got 50.8% of the vote. Even if you just look at the first round of IRV he got 35% of first-choice votes (https://ballotpedia.org/District_Attorney_election_in_San_Francisco,_California_(2019) https://ballotpedia.org/District_Attorney_election_in_San_Fr...)
    - iammisc 5y ago
      Thanks for the source. Even if I were to try the best interpretation of the claim above, which would be that Boudin got 14% of the vote in the first round of a ranked choice scheem, that falls flat. Boudin was the first choice of a plurality of the city. This claim falls extremely flat.

xkeysc0re 5y ago

The Democratic Machine is very much alive in the Empire State

ezekg 5y ago

Honestly, I was pointing out these "conspiracy theories" back in 2020 and nobody cared then and frankly nobody cares now. Complacency and apathy of The People -- that's how he's not impeached. The same goes for many other representatives.

mshanowitz 5y ago
Are you implying that the NY Times is promoting conspiracy theories?
- Akronymus 5y ago
  Rather implying that these were called conspiracy theories until no longer convenient to hide them.
giantg2 5y ago
I would add that it's mostly tribalism and avoiding cognitive dissonance. Democrats were calling for Desantis' head because he was thought to be cooking the numbers. Republicans are calling for Coumo's head because he was cooking the numbers. In general, people ignore things that don't fit, and seek out things that do fit, their existing world view.
- iammisc 5y ago
  > Democrats were calling for Desantis' head because he was thought to be cooking the numbers. Republicans are calling for Coumo's head because he was cooking the numbers. Except, rational people can see that someone being 'thought to cook the numbers' and someone 'cooking the numbers' are wholly different things and only one 'side' worthy of condemnation in this instance.
  - lesuorac 5y ago
    NY isn't that happy with Coumo. Less-so for registered democrats but he's still not winning re-election which is about as accountable as politicians seem to be. https://lmgtfy.app/?q=democrats+calling+for+cuomo+to+resign https://lmgtfy.app/?q=democrats+calling+for+cuomo+to+resign https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/03/19/new-poll-suggests-majority-of-new-yorkers-say-gov-cuomo-should-resign/?sh=9eae1721f33e https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/03/19/new-poll-s...

the_lonely_road 5y ago

I thought those links would be about all the sexual assault allegations that somehow disappeared with no consequences. I had forgotten about all about the nursing home thing. How is this guy still in office?!?

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
He is a high level career politicians and therefore has friends in the right places so the procedural things that need to happen for him to be impeached will simply not happen unless there's a reason. The party will depose him eventually because they don't want people known to have those skeletons in their closet but it will either happen quietly later (i.e. he won't seek further political office and will get a cushy board job somewhere), or if in the near future the party needs to look like it's tough on incompetence or tough on sexual misconduct he'll be the sacrificial lamb. Welcome to single party state politics.
- nerdponx 5y ago
  Also his last re-election was a joke, "somehow" his only primary challenger was a nobody and literally not a politician, so he won that handily, and then beat his Republican opponent more or less on the grounds of being not-a-Republican. It sucks.
  - landemva 5y ago
    Is it time to move? Stop consenting.
    - nerdponx 5y ago
      Not everyone has the luxury of being able to move, and a lot of places are worse anyway.
    - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
      The last thing anywhere else needs are people who have NY politics within their overton window.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> How has he not been impeached already? Simple answer? He's delivering on policy. Legalised weed. Election reform. Ex-convict rights reforms. New tax package. Much of this was gridlocked. Magically, the grease hit the wheels when impeachment came into focus. None of this will win him another term. But he's functionally useful and not showing signs of becoming an albatross on the party.

giantg2 5y ago
Do you have more info on why it was gridlocked? I thought many of these initiatives passed by wide margins, like 2:1 for weed.
- PhineasRex 5y ago
  If you really want to know look know further than Cuomo's mismanagement of the governor's office (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-cuomo-misconduct-allegations.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-cuomo-miscond...)
- bradleyjg 5y ago
  There’s was infighting over how to divide up the financial benefits of legalization.
bradleyjg 5y ago
I could see him winning another term. If the only candidate to run against him in the primary is someone with little to no prior political experience, endorsed by AOC—-I can definitely see him being renominated by default.
PhineasRex 5y ago
Those things were deadlocked by his office. The legislature had tried legalizing weird years ago, for example. His office is notoriously dysfunctional and only gets around to doing anything when he needs a political win.
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iammisc 5y ago

It's just (d)ifferent.