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The nytimes they are a-changin'
- adamfeldman 15y agoThe pace of news is the pulse of the day
- mnemonicsloth 15y agoCounterpoint: "news" is the lie that something important happens every day.
- sliverstorm 15y agoDepends on what you define as "important", but with 6.5 billion people on the world, there are certain to be remarkable or notable events with great regularity and frequency.
- granite_scones 15y agoImportant to whom? What people find remarkable and notable varies wildly. What may be notable to one group (say the residents of X-town may find the mayoral election notable) might not be to another (Y-town doesn't care). Something remarkable or notable may happen every day, but it's not necessarily the case that something remarkable or notable to a specific person happens every day.
- Volpe 15y agoYes, because "the news" reports equally about all events around the world... riiiiight... News is there to advertise, plain and simple. Whether it's paid "ads" or (anti)government policy or various lobby groups. It has very little to with 'world events', and more to do with "What will get peoples' attention".
- spudlyo 15y agoWow, I had no idea the ads were so huge and invasive. It made me wonder how much Ralph Lauren spent to have their ads take what seemed to be over 50% of the on-screen real estate.
- jbrkr 15y agoThis is based on an incorrect assumption: ... no one is storing their frontpage layout data. The Newseum has this covered for over 800 newspapers. A recent front page of the New York Times, for example: http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=NY_NYT http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=NY_NY...
- donohoe 15y agoThe NYT also stores their data... see my reply further up: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2801652 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2801652
- citricsquid 15y agoIt's interesting to see the typo fixes and how long different stories last. At 2:11 a story relevant to us all. I wonder (with regards to his point about things disappearing forever) if a distributed effort among "tech people" to catalog a lot of websites would work, different people run nodes that are given tasks. Would be neat to keep a track of the top 1,000 article driven sites for a year (not just news, reddit, hn etc.) > Due to an errant cron task that ran twice an hour This has happened to me a few times. Recently I had accidentally collected over 100,000 copies of a website over a 3 month period after forgetting the thing was running.
- ck2 15y agoIf they collected the html and not just screencaps, it would be interesting to see a word-cloud evolve and change over time too. Too bad there isn't an annual follow up for every major story.
- jwomers 15y agoWow, completely agree about how the layout, and emphasis on different headlines, topics, categories, advertising etc.. are all huge indicators of society's interests and conceptions of the world. That said, I would be surprised to learn that the nyt doesn't store their front page every day into some archive? If they don't, then someone must!
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- donohoe 15y agoThey do. The CMS has all the rankings. Rank meta data is stored with articles, including (if published in print) where it was in the physical paper and what editions(s). On the web site front, there are internal process capturing the Homepage HTML and that goes back maybe 10 years at this point. On a more public level you can still find the Homepage from a given date here: http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/02/06/ http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/02/06/ you can extrapolate the rest: http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/02/06/business/ http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/02/06/business/ Those would represent the last view of the day before the date rolled over in the CMS.
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- molbioguy 15y agoReminds me of Spock's Tricorder in the Star Trek episode 'The City on the Edge of Forever'. Playing back history at high speed. Very cool.
- petercooper 15y agoThis did well on HN a week ago too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219 Seeing so many signs in the last year that HN is formed of different overlapping audiences that visit at different times of the day. Tons of dupes lately.
- martey 15y agoWhile I have also noticed many duplicate articles, one way the community could try to avoid them would be by making sure that they are posting original sources (as suggested in the official guidelines), and not random blog posts (like the post a week ago). edit: I have just noticed http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2777508 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2777508 , which AFAIK links to the same URL as this.
- petercooper 15y agoYeah, although sometimes it's not particularly obvious. I've noticed a lot of links to a site called http://ontwik.com/ http://ontwik.com/ being posted in the last few months (a Google search for ontwik on news.ycombinator.com shows over 100 results). It's a site that seems to take embeddable videos from YouTube, Vimeo and the like and turn them into pages like http://ontwik.com/html5-2/html5-games-with-rob-hawkes-of-mozilla/ http://ontwik.com/html5-2/html5-games-with-rob-hawkes-of-moz... .. I can see why people are linking these things up, even though it should be the original YouTube video getting the link.
- gmac 15y agoOr at the same times of the day but in different timezones.
- CJefferson 15y agoI think this might show that stories disappear from the front page too quickly -- although of course slowing that down would result in frequent visitors seeing less new material.
- tybris 15y agoIs that a bad thing?
- rmccue 15y agoSomewhat off-topic: watching the Chilean miners story in the video was heartwarming as the number rescued increased.
- jeremymims 15y agoPerpetually.com solves this problem. In fact, they're already working with newspapers like The Wall Street Journal and for every major federally elected political candidate. More than just random screen captures, every article, every change, every link and state are preserved. It's like Apple Time Machine for the Internet. http://www.perpetually.com/ http://www.perpetually.com/ Full Disclosure: I advise this company.