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Fritz the cat was a feature film not a TV show. Mighty Mouse was an actual kids show cancelled over a reference to a character supposedly snorting a line of som

Fritz the cat was a feature film not a TV show. Mighty Mouse was an actual kids show cancelled over a reference to a character supposedly snorting a line of something and Bakshi's reputation. There was a bit of separation between TV cartoons and feature length ones back then. You're correct, the precedent for adult oriented animation had been set years before, but I wouldn't really compare movies like that, or even the more adult oriented anime shows and films in Japan at the time to that era of western TV cartoons. As far as western TV cartoons went, prior to those late 80's, early 90's shows, there wasn't really any like them.

boomboomsubban 5y ago
>As far as western TV cartoons went, prior to those late 80's, early 90's shows, there wasn't really any like them. Virtually all those shows creators credit Bakshi as an influence though. Hell, the asshole co-creator of Ren and Stimpy worked with him on Mighty Mouse. They likely needed cable to be able to successfully move to television, but I don't see how they disrupted cable. edit they changed the title to "upended animation." While I stil think it's a slight overstatement, that title at least represents what the article is about.
- grawprog 5y ago
  >Virtually all those shows creators credit Bakshi as an influence though. I'd bet a lot of early punk rockers credit the Beatles as an influence, doesn't mean they invented punk rock. For comparison a list of pre-edgy 1980's cartoons recommended for adults https://www.animationforadults.com/2015/05/afas-top-20-cartoons-of-1980s.html?m=1 https://www.animationforadults.com/2015/05/afas-top-20-carto... vs a 90's era list of cartoons recommended for adults. I think you'll find a very huge difference in the types of shows being recommended. https://www.ranker.com/list/90s-adult-cartoons/ranker-tv https://www.ranker.com/list/90s-adult-cartoons/ranker-tv >Hell, the asshole co-creator of Ren and Stimpy worked with him on Mighty Mouse. But it was him not Bakshi that pushed that adult style onto mainstream television. Don't get me wrong. I really enjoy Bakshi's work but he isn't really the one responsible for bringing edgy cartoons to home television.
  - boomboomsubban 5y ago
    >But it was him not Bakshi that pushed that adult style onto mainstream television We have vastly different memories of Mighty Mouse. Ren and Stimpy definitely took it a few steps further, but it's not like the asshole suddenly started making weird shit after working on Mighty Mouse. And I've admitted several times that the nineties were more influential for adult cartoons on TV. I just think that has more to do with the growth in cable and the rise of outsourcing animation than any pioneers suddenly wanting to make adult cartoons.
    - saranagati 5y ago
      The thing is that these animated shows were doing something that just wasn’t allowed in tv shows at the time but they got away with it because they were cartoons and not real people. At the same time that made it all even more taboo because cartoons were for children. At that same time the most immoral live action show was married with children, magnitudes less immoral than some of these cartoons. These animated shows really did open the door for making television something that didn’t always have to be family friendly.

boomboomsubban 5y ago

>As far as western TV cartoons went, prior to those late 80's, early 90's shows, there wasn't really any like them. Virtually all those shows creators credit Bakshi as an influence though. Hell, the asshole co-creator of Ren and Stimpy worked with him on Mighty Mouse. They likely needed cable to be able to successfully move to television, but I don't see how they disrupted cable. edit they changed the title to "upended animation." While I stil think it's a slight overstatement, that title at least represents what the article is about.

grawprog 5y ago
>Virtually all those shows creators credit Bakshi as an influence though. I'd bet a lot of early punk rockers credit the Beatles as an influence, doesn't mean they invented punk rock. For comparison a list of pre-edgy 1980's cartoons recommended for adults https://www.animationforadults.com/2015/05/afas-top-20-cartoons-of-1980s.html?m=1 https://www.animationforadults.com/2015/05/afas-top-20-carto... vs a 90's era list of cartoons recommended for adults. I think you'll find a very huge difference in the types of shows being recommended. https://www.ranker.com/list/90s-adult-cartoons/ranker-tv https://www.ranker.com/list/90s-adult-cartoons/ranker-tv >Hell, the asshole co-creator of Ren and Stimpy worked with him on Mighty Mouse. But it was him not Bakshi that pushed that adult style onto mainstream television. Don't get me wrong. I really enjoy Bakshi's work but he isn't really the one responsible for bringing edgy cartoons to home television.
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  >But it was him not Bakshi that pushed that adult style onto mainstream television We have vastly different memories of Mighty Mouse. Ren and Stimpy definitely took it a few steps further, but it's not like the asshole suddenly started making weird shit after working on Mighty Mouse. And I've admitted several times that the nineties were more influential for adult cartoons on TV. I just think that has more to do with the growth in cable and the rise of outsourcing animation than any pioneers suddenly wanting to make adult cartoons.
  - saranagati 5y ago
    The thing is that these animated shows were doing something that just wasn’t allowed in tv shows at the time but they got away with it because they were cartoons and not real people. At the same time that made it all even more taboo because cartoons were for children. At that same time the most immoral live action show was married with children, magnitudes less immoral than some of these cartoons. These animated shows really did open the door for making television something that didn’t always have to be family friendly.