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I've been thinking about this for a while... and I am really starting to believe that management is the subsection of the workforce being most overpaid these d
by jppope 5y ago
I've been thinking about this for a while... and I am really starting to believe that management is the subsection of the workforce being most overpaid these days.
Also, I wrote an article on developer pay that might be relevant to this discussion: (Why Aren't Developers Paid More?) https://jonpauluritis.com/articles/why-aren-t-developers-paid-more/ https://jonpauluritis.com/articles/why-aren-t-developers-pai...
- wayoutthere 5y agoTo be fair most middle management isn’t as well compensated as software developers are. A director at a Fortune 500 is pulling down $200-250k, which is equivalent to about an E6 at big Internet natives. That said, to those who create the value go the spoils, so it’s not at all wrong. The middle managers just get a little frustrated and wish they were still software devs.
- pedrosorio 5y ago> A director at a Fortune 500 is pulling down $200-250k, which is equivalent to about an E6 at big Internet natives. Who are the big Internet natives?
- wayoutthere 5y agoGoogle, FB, Netflix, Spotify, Twilio, et al. Make their money selling software and / or digital products.
- pedrosorio 5y agoI don't think there are any staff software engineers at those companies in the US earning in that range. At the first 2 companies, that is slightly above the total comp for a new grad. For Spotify and Twilio, some Senior Engineers may earn in that range, but unlikely that any staff do. Netflix only hires senior(+) SWE, and is well known for making offers at the top of the market, which is well above $250k. https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Spotify,Twilio,Netflix,Google,Facebook&track=Software%20Engineer https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Spotify,Twilio,Netflix,Googl...
- seattle_spring 5y agoWith equity, E6 is much closer to $1m / year. $250k is easily achievable at E4.