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> I wish we as a culture/society, acknowledged the luck and timing factor more as a factor in career development. I've been mentoring young people and college
by PragmaticPulp 5y ago
> I wish we as a culture/society, acknowledged the luck and timing factor more as a factor in career development.
I've been mentoring young people and college students on and off for years. The influence of luck on their success is a constant topic. Definitely not ignored.
If anything, they tend to overestimate the role of luck and external factors in career development. Each year it seems like I talk to more students who have been convinced that success can only be the result of pure chance. I watch a lot of them lose motivation because they think they need luck and nepotism and connections and wealthy parents to be successful.
For example: All of them have heard the phrase "It's not what you know, it's who you know." Some of them take it so literally that they lose motivation to learn things, instead assuming that their career success is going to come down to whoever their parents or friends can introduce them to. This leads to a lot of frustration come internship time when they see a couple of their less-knowledgeable friends land great internships at their parents' or friends' parents' companies.
I feel like I spend a lot of time convincing some of these students that they do, indeed, have a lot of influence over their career trajectory. Their outlooks tend to change quickly when they arrive at a job and realize that what they know really does matter a lot more than who their parents are when it comes to getting anything done. I also have to emphasize that "who you know" isn't some fixed quantity, and that they will meet a lot of people in their career. The more they deliver good results, the better the impression they leave on the "who you know" and the more valuable their reputation becomes. You're never going to expand your network without putting yourself out there.
It's tough to compete with the constant onslaught of cynicism they consume on TikTok, Reddit, and other websites every single day, though.
- WalterBright 5y agoI see that cynicism on HackerNews a lot, too. I consistently point out opportunities, and people just argue with that.
- username90 5y agoThey don't even view making 200k per year as "making it". Joining a top tech company doesn't require luck or connections, anyone can do it if they got the talent and just practice programming enough. Of course when you confront them they retreat to their motte and say that talent is also luck, and not getting cancer is luck etc, and therefore everything in life is actually luck, so they weren't wrong!
- WalterBright 5y ago> not getting cancer is luck I read years ago that 40% of cancers are attributable to lifestyle choices. For example, your odds of mouth/throat cancer increase steadily the more you drink. Getting the HPV vaccine reduces your chances of the associated cancer by a factor of 22. I post often here about "getting your share" by buying stocks in successful companies, that you can get started at no cost, and can buy fractional shares if you don't have much to invest. I get lots and lots of push back. Last year, stocks increased what, 30%? All those missed opportunities. (Of course, stocks don't go up 30% every year, and often go down. But you can't get lucky investing in stocks if you never invest .)
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- lliamander 5y agoPeople would rather complain about the opportunities they don't have than exploit the ones they do have.
- 908B64B197 5y ago> This leads to a lot of frustration come internship time when they see a couple of their less-knowledgeable friends land great internships at their parents' or friends' parents' companies. On the positive side, they now have a friend at the company that can refer them...