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Huge difference between a random fire and a fire during testing. As proven by most of the comments in this thread, people think it was a random fire. That’s h

Huge difference between a random fire and a fire during testing. As proven by most of the comments in this thread, people think it was a random fire. That’s how editors and journalists control public opinion.

gamblor956 5y ago
This isn't much better than a random fire, in fact, it's arguably worse. An industrial lithium battery has absolutely no business catching on fire within 24 hours of being put into use. That's simply unacceptable: it means that the significant errors were made in either the manufacturing, assembly, or installation phases. That would be news even if this wasn't a Tesla installation, especially given that the fire was so large a toxic smoke alert had to be issued for the area. There was no bias in the reporting. There was a fire, during testing. And that's what the articles actually reported. It's possible that the fire wasn't related to manufacturing/assembly issues on Tesla's end (i.e., that it was related to installation), but as the fire just happened that information won't be known for a few days. The only bias here is your own. Tesla makes mistakes. Accept it, and move on.
- foxyv 5y ago
  > The cause of the fire at the Victorian Big Battery site in Geelong, Victoria is not yet known. It may be too early to be attributing blame to Tesla. Even the safest systems can be compromised by technician scissorhands or first day forklifter. Something as simple as damage in shipping can cause these issues. Which is why they test them immediately after installation. I don't think anyone would honestly think Tesla can't make mistakes or rush something they weren't prepared for. Especially considering their cars... But they are certainly accomplishing something amazing in Australia.
- iseanstevens 5y ago
  I don’t see how it would possibly be worse than it happening in use V’s. Testing. This is part of why there is testing. Any system a small percentage of components will be out of spec or defective. Or damaged in transit. There are on the order of 1+ million or more individual battery cells in this installation, which means also multiple times that in electrical connections, plus BMS electronics. Assuming it stays isolated to a single unit, and no other fires occur, I would say their system design is excellent.
  - gamblor956 5y ago
    Do you know how everyone who isn't Tesla tests equipment like this? They test the units individually, before connecting them to the system/grid/etc, especially if there are safety risks involved, like a fire that can't be put out until it burns itself out. Everyone defending Tesla on this simply doesn't understand what proper safety looks like at an industrial/utility scale.

gamblor956 5y ago

This isn't much better than a random fire, in fact, it's arguably worse. An industrial lithium battery has absolutely no business catching on fire within 24 hours of being put into use. That's simply unacceptable: it means that the significant errors were made in either the manufacturing, assembly, or installation phases. That would be news even if this wasn't a Tesla installation, especially given that the fire was so large a toxic smoke alert had to be issued for the area. There was no bias in the reporting. There was a fire, during testing. And that's what the articles actually reported. It's possible that the fire wasn't related to manufacturing/assembly issues on Tesla's end (i.e., that it was related to installation), but as the fire just happened that information won't be known for a few days. The only bias here is your own. Tesla makes mistakes. Accept it, and move on.

foxyv 5y ago
> The cause of the fire at the Victorian Big Battery site in Geelong, Victoria is not yet known. It may be too early to be attributing blame to Tesla. Even the safest systems can be compromised by technician scissorhands or first day forklifter. Something as simple as damage in shipping can cause these issues. Which is why they test them immediately after installation. I don't think anyone would honestly think Tesla can't make mistakes or rush something they weren't prepared for. Especially considering their cars... But they are certainly accomplishing something amazing in Australia.
iseanstevens 5y ago
I don’t see how it would possibly be worse than it happening in use V’s. Testing. This is part of why there is testing. Any system a small percentage of components will be out of spec or defective. Or damaged in transit. There are on the order of 1+ million or more individual battery cells in this installation, which means also multiple times that in electrical connections, plus BMS electronics. Assuming it stays isolated to a single unit, and no other fires occur, I would say their system design is excellent.
- gamblor956 5y ago
  Do you know how everyone who isn't Tesla tests equipment like this? They test the units individually, before connecting them to the system/grid/etc, especially if there are safety risks involved, like a fire that can't be put out until it burns itself out. Everyone defending Tesla on this simply doesn't understand what proper safety looks like at an industrial/utility scale.