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Everyone says this until they go work for Oracle and their tune changes immediately. It's... interesting.

cptskippy 5y ago
Like who? I imagine anyone who goes to work at Oracle doesn't really posses the disdain for them that allows for the derivation of pleasure from hearing they lost a court case.
Tuna-Fish 5y ago
I know a few people who have worked at oracle who have colorful things to say about the company. The most memorable version on the internet has to be this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2115s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2115s watch for about 4 minutes.
- soared 5y ago
  You can check my comment to cement this. The pay is excellent but the organization fits people’s general ideas of oracle. I saw contracts signed where we’d purposely lose money for years in order to box out competitors in the short term and then jack up prices for the client in the long term. What people don’t typically think about though is how massively successful oracle is because of these strategies. They work really well.
  - kaba0 5y ago
    Isn’t that a pretty widely used strategy? Eg. Uber pretty much lost on initial rides (maybe even now), so it’s hardly big evil Oracle, but big evil capitalism.
    - usefulcat 5y ago
      Except that Uber's product is a commodity. It's far, far easier to switch to using a different ride sharing app than it is to switch to using a different database. Especially for a large organization.
    - ndesaulniers 5y ago
      Big evil predatory pricing. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/predatory-pricing.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/predatory-pricing.asp
    - behringer 5y ago
      Common, but illegal. https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/single-firm-conduct/predatory-or-below-cost https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-a...
- nickstinemates 5y ago
  Any talk by Bryan is worth watching for enthusiasm alone.

Like who? I imagine anyone who goes to work at Oracle doesn't really posses the disdain for them that allows for the derivation of pleasure from hearing they lost a court case.

Tuna-Fish 5y ago

I know a few people who have worked at oracle who have colorful things to say about the company. The most memorable version on the internet has to be this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2115s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2115s watch for about 4 minutes.

soared 5y ago
You can check my comment to cement this. The pay is excellent but the organization fits people’s general ideas of oracle. I saw contracts signed where we’d purposely lose money for years in order to box out competitors in the short term and then jack up prices for the client in the long term. What people don’t typically think about though is how massively successful oracle is because of these strategies. They work really well.
- kaba0 5y ago
  Isn’t that a pretty widely used strategy? Eg. Uber pretty much lost on initial rides (maybe even now), so it’s hardly big evil Oracle, but big evil capitalism.
  - usefulcat 5y ago
    Except that Uber's product is a commodity. It's far, far easier to switch to using a different ride sharing app than it is to switch to using a different database. Especially for a large organization.
  - ndesaulniers 5y ago
    Big evil predatory pricing. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/predatory-pricing.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/predatory-pricing.asp
  - behringer 5y ago
    Common, but illegal. https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/single-firm-conduct/predatory-or-below-cost https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-a...
nickstinemates 5y ago
Any talk by Bryan is worth watching for enthusiasm alone.