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> My twin is significantly overweight. Has been since we were 15. I'm not and haven't ever been. I always enjoyed working out, he didn't. Your univariate view o

> My twin is significantly overweight. Has been since we were 15. I'm not and haven't ever been. I always enjoyed working out, he didn't. Your univariate view of the world can't explain this. Yes it can. You were subject to different environmental factors. These differences can compound to produce very different results over time, but ultimately it is still genetic at the root. I could respond to the rest of your post but I think this is the crux of your argument.

zamfi 5y ago
Biology and chemistry exist as disciplines because, even though the laws of physics theoretically explain everything about the universe, it is completely intractable to use them to do so — and it turns out we can construct explanations of the universe at higher levels of abstraction than fundamental physics, and then reason using those explanations. Your argument seems to be that physics is all we need.
JPKab 5y ago
My twin brother and I shared a bedroom from birth until we left for college at 17. Exactly what different environmental factors can you identify between us that would have made him chunky at 15 when I wasn't? Or that made him not enjoy exercise and sports like I did from the age of 8 onwards? Are you going to admit that it pokes massive holes in your univariate theory, or simply continue to double down? Perhaps my side of the room had a dramatically different climate than his, right? It's as if your brain ignored the obvious to continue to support your absurdly simplistic genetic determinism.
- rajin444 5y ago
  It seems like your argument is now "there were differences but there's no way they were big enough to change how we developed". Unless you've got understanding that vastly exceeds current science, I don't think you can say which differences are relevant.

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> My twin is significantly overweight. Has been since we were 15. I'm not and haven't ever been. I always enjoyed working out, he didn't. Your univariate view o

by rajin444 5y ago

zamfi 5y ago
Biology and chemistry exist as disciplines because, even though the laws of physics theoretically explain everything about the universe, it is completely intractable to use them to do so — and it turns out we can construct explanations of the universe at higher levels of abstraction than fundamental physics, and then reason using those explanations. Your argument seems to be that physics is all we need.
JPKab 5y ago
My twin brother and I shared a bedroom from birth until we left for college at 17. Exactly what different environmental factors can you identify between us that would have made him chunky at 15 when I wasn't? Or that made him not enjoy exercise and sports like I did from the age of 8 onwards? Are you going to admit that it pokes massive holes in your univariate theory, or simply continue to double down? Perhaps my side of the room had a dramatically different climate than his, right? It's as if your brain ignored the obvious to continue to support your absurdly simplistic genetic determinism.
- rajin444 5y ago
  It seems like your argument is now "there were differences but there's no way they were big enough to change how we developed". Unless you've got understanding that vastly exceeds current science, I don't think you can say which differences are relevant.