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>There are still a lot of DOS applications in production (particularly in industry) as well as a massive retro gaming community. True but for that your don't n

by nix23 5y ago

>There are still a lot of DOS applications in production (particularly in industry) as well as a massive retro gaming community. True but for that your don't need a pkg-manager, and for retro gaming..i would argue that 99.99% use DosBox, and the 0.01% with real hardware use probably MS-Dos 6.22. >anyone still using it outside of hobby communities? I don't think, but we never know ;) The last real hardware was shutdown in 2000 in Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics#Project_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics#Project_history >But the release notes for MR12.7 reads more like that of FreeBSD or similar. What do you mean with that? >what language would they be coding in? B? BCL? First it was PLE then PL/1 well and some assembly, in Mutltics tradition the language the OS had to be implemented was written in stone before the langspec. or a working compiler existed (PLE E stands for early PL) BTW: The opposite to Multics the "Incompatible Timesharing System" gets some Maintenance-(love) too: https://github.com/PDP-10/its https://github.com/PDP-10/its

hnlmorg 5y ago
> True but for that your don't need a pkg-manager, Why not? > and for retro gaming..i would argue that 99.99% use DosBox, and the 0.01% with real hardware use probably MS-Dos 6.22. Most do use DOSBox or physical hardware. Some do use FreeDOS too but yes, it is a hell of a lot less common so I do take your point :) > What do you mean with that? Have a read of it yourself: https://s3.amazonaws.com/eswenson-multics/public/releases/MR12.7/MR12.7_SRB.txt https://s3.amazonaws.com/eswenson-multics/public/releases/MR... A lot of it is production features and bug fixes rather than toys for hobbyists. I will admit I'm talking about my subjective impression here though. > First it was PLE then PL/1 well and some assembly, in Mutltics tradition the language the OS had to be implemented was written in stone before the langspec. or a working compiler existed (PLE E stands for early PL) Interesting. Thank you :) > BTW: The opposite to Multics the "Incompatible Timesharing System" gets some Maintenance-(love) too: I've not heard of ITS before. Thanks for the link!
- nix23 5y ago
  The Dos applications in production are probably delivered by floppy or CD. But hey absolutely with you, i "updated" a warehouse management machine ~7 years ago with FreeDOS and new Industrial-grade Hardware and automated email backup (haha take that cloud!), we had just one little problem with the infrared reader, but we found one with USB and DOS drivers and and everything was fine, so there's definitely a use-case for FreeDOS.
simtel20 5y ago
> BTW: The opposite to Multics the "Incompatible Timesharing System" gets some Maintenance-(love) too The lore I heard was that ITS was the reaction to CTS but now that you mentioned this, I did some research and it looks like the you're right and the project MAC folks were just making a pun on the name, but wrote ITS in response to multics, as you said. Thanks for mentioning that!

by nix23 5y ago

hnlmorg 5y ago

> True but for that your don't need a pkg-manager, Why not? > and for retro gaming..i would argue that 99.99% use DosBox, and the 0.01% with real hardware use probably MS-Dos 6.22. Most do use DOSBox or physical hardware. Some do use FreeDOS too but yes, it is a hell of a lot less common so I do take your point :) > What do you mean with that? Have a read of it yourself: https://s3.amazonaws.com/eswenson-multics/public/releases/MR12.7/MR12.7_SRB.txt https://s3.amazonaws.com/eswenson-multics/public/releases/MR... A lot of it is production features and bug fixes rather than toys for hobbyists. I will admit I'm talking about my subjective impression here though. > First it was PLE then PL/1 well and some assembly, in Mutltics tradition the language the OS had to be implemented was written in stone before the langspec. or a working compiler existed (PLE E stands for early PL) Interesting. Thank you :) > BTW: The opposite to Multics the "Incompatible Timesharing System" gets some Maintenance-(love) too: I've not heard of ITS before. Thanks for the link!

nix23 5y ago
The Dos applications in production are probably delivered by floppy or CD. But hey absolutely with you, i "updated" a warehouse management machine ~7 years ago with FreeDOS and new Industrial-grade Hardware and automated email backup (haha take that cloud!), we had just one little problem with the infrared reader, but we found one with USB and DOS drivers and and everything was fine, so there's definitely a use-case for FreeDOS.

simtel20 5y ago

> BTW: The opposite to Multics the "Incompatible Timesharing System" gets some Maintenance-(love) too The lore I heard was that ITS was the reaction to CTS but now that you mentioned this, I did some research and it looks like the you're right and the project MAC folks were just making a pun on the name, but wrote ITS in response to multics, as you said. Thanks for mentioning that!