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I will never understand people who are so vegan that they wouldn't even eat biomass from an insect that naturally died. Why? Do such people also refuse to trave
by yosito 5y ago
I will never understand people who are so vegan that they wouldn't even eat biomass from an insect that naturally died. Why? Do such people also refuse to travel in any vehicles? Where do they draw the line at how small an organism has to be?
- dTal 5y agoHave you ever met such a person?
- yosito 5y agoYes, I've had both a coworker and a housemate lecture me about how they are vegan so they won't consume or use anything that involves dead insects.
- stronglikedan 5y agoYup! Plenty. I even dated one for a couple months, trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. She actually ended it over something I said (not even did) jokingly, that was equally as ridiculous as this fig wasp thing. I sure did dodge that bullet.
- TeMPOraL 5y agoIt's not a consistent position in any way. After all, they still eat food. Insects are many, they're small, and they're everywhere. Between growing, harvesting, processing, transporting, putting on store shelves, buying, transporting home, and putting in the fridge, you can bet that any piece of produce is highly likely to have dead insect pieces on it, or in it. It's like people don't realize what the biosphere is made of. It's not a magical land where living things frolic - it's a dense soup of things that live, and things that once lived. The soil in which we grow our food is made of dead bodies mixed with sand, infused with nanobots that forever try to recycle the carcasses into more living things. No, worrying about insect biomass is not the best thing to ground your ethical framework around. Otherwise, you'd best not breathe - the air is full of dead bodies too.
- ekianjo 5y agoVegans should avoid tomato juice too because there is always a certain percentage of insects mixed in it too. That is part of acceptable processes in the food industry.
- gambiting 5y agoAs is in bread, in cereal, in any kind of bean or lentil you can think of.... Ironically, the only kind of food that you can be absolutely 100% certain is definitely insect free is stuff like milk, eggs and meat.
- checkyoursudo 5y agoEggs bought in the shell, I can see being convinced that these are reasonably likely to be insect-free, but why milk and meat? I can imagine insects in the processing of those.
- gambiting 5y agoHow? Milk from a big scale industrial farm is taken pretty much directly from the udder into a sterilised tank, and then directly into cartons/bottles from there. Large scale butchers also follow strict hygiene procedures. Like, ok, maybe an insect could be somewhere in the process, but everything about milk and meat processing should almost guarantee lack of insects anywhere. As compared to things like wheat where insects will always be in flour and we can't do anything about it.
- Accacin 5y agoI know people like to think vegans are crazy, but I've literally never met a vegan who was anything like this. However, thinking about it, it is very hard to draw a line. I know where line my personal line is, but it's very hard to explain why it makes any sense to anyone but me.
- gambiting 5y agoI have. Coworker refused a lift in pouring rain because I had leather seats in the car(not just refused - got in, asked if those seats are leather, I said yes, then he apologized and said he would rather walk than sit on leather). I was like ok, sure dude, your choice.
- delian66 5y agoDid he try to convince you that you should too be a vegan?
- noduerme 5y agoI want this story to end with him pulling out a small paper cocktail umbrella, holding it over his head, and singing "Give me a home where the buffalo roam," before disappearing into the rain... never to be seen at the office again.
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- user-the-name 5y agoIf you had a car with seats covered in the skin of dead dogs, I would not get in your car, and neither would most people. Why is it such a stretch to understand that someone might have the same reaction with a slightly different animal?
- tsimionescu 5y agoI would bet that most people would actually get in that car - assuming the "skin" is leather and not rotting dry skin, of course.
- user-the-name 5y agoCan you name an actual person that believes this?
- Gatsky 5y agoThere is a whole religion in fact [1]. Uncompromising committment to non-violence. > Strict Jains do not consume food that has been stored overnight, as it possesses a higher concentration of micro-organisms (for example, bacteria, yeast etc.) as compared to food prepared and consumed the same day. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism