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I'm not sure whether military intervention is right or not, but for everyone making comparisons based on absolute numbers, please note that the population in Sy

by honie 5y ago

I'm not sure whether military intervention is right or not, but for everyone making comparisons based on absolute numbers, please note that the population in Sydney is tiny. If you take the lower population density into account, all of a sudden ~200 cases no longer appears to be a trivial number. I see people constantly breaking lockdown restrictions outside of my window here. It's pretty damn frustrating for those who are obeying the restrictions.

Ice_cream_suit 5y ago
"please note that the population in Sydney is tiny" The population of Sydney is 5367206 according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. Smaller than most major cities, but not all that tiny....
- honie 5y ago
  I guess "big" and "tiny" are subjective. My point still hasn't changed: that people who are saying that "we have X many cases in our city, your ~200 cases is nothing compared to ours" are perhaps over-trivialising the problems we are facing.
tomjen3 5y ago
It is very close to that of Denmark. We had 3 times that yesterday. Not a problem if you have vacines.
- honie 5y ago
  Maybe I'm missing your point: but wouldn't one be more concerned if there are more people vaccinated and the number of cases is higher? Also, I was under the impression that the long-term effects of COVID isn't well understood yet, and that people who are vaccinated can still be carriers. If I'm not mistaken on both accounts, then everyone should be just as cautious until basically the majority of the population is vaccinated -- otherwise those who are vaccinated are basically just walking around infecting those who aren't since everyone has the guard down? Edit: potentially abrasive choice of word.
  - tomjen3 5y ago
    We aren't close to having issues with hospital capacity, while long covid is an issue, the fear was always overrunning the hospitals and the old people. The first isn't an issue and the rest are vaccinated.
    - honie 5y ago
      That's fair enough. We were lucky that hospital capacity wasn't much of a problem, but the lack of vaccination coverage together with a lot of... questionable strategies and mixed messages has done us in. Given there are still a lot of unknowns with the virus, I still think we should all be more cautious. But it's just personal opinion at this point, so I don't want to dwell on that.

by honie 5y ago

Ice_cream_suit 5y ago

"please note that the population in Sydney is tiny" The population of Sydney is 5367206 according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. Smaller than most major cities, but not all that tiny....

honie 5y ago
I guess "big" and "tiny" are subjective. My point still hasn't changed: that people who are saying that "we have X many cases in our city, your ~200 cases is nothing compared to ours" are perhaps over-trivialising the problems we are facing.

tomjen3 5y ago

It is very close to that of Denmark. We had 3 times that yesterday. Not a problem if you have vacines.

honie 5y ago
Maybe I'm missing your point: but wouldn't one be more concerned if there are more people vaccinated and the number of cases is higher? Also, I was under the impression that the long-term effects of COVID isn't well understood yet, and that people who are vaccinated can still be carriers. If I'm not mistaken on both accounts, then everyone should be just as cautious until basically the majority of the population is vaccinated -- otherwise those who are vaccinated are basically just walking around infecting those who aren't since everyone has the guard down? Edit: potentially abrasive choice of word.
- tomjen3 5y ago
  We aren't close to having issues with hospital capacity, while long covid is an issue, the fear was always overrunning the hospitals and the old people. The first isn't an issue and the rest are vaccinated.
  - honie 5y ago
    That's fair enough. We were lucky that hospital capacity wasn't much of a problem, but the lack of vaccination coverage together with a lot of... questionable strategies and mixed messages has done us in. Given there are still a lot of unknowns with the virus, I still think we should all be more cautious. But it's just personal opinion at this point, so I don't want to dwell on that.