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Rather than trying to tease out the explicit meaning or jokes or subtext, we could just consider the rise of bleach ingestion at the time. Responsible people wi

Rather than trying to tease out the explicit meaning or jokes or subtext, we could just consider the rise of bleach ingestion at the time. Responsible people with a platform speak responsibly.

crocodiletears 5y ago
Given he never mentions bleach, or even suggested disinfectant as anything other than a quizzical aside to an aide - if the rise in bleach poisonings were to be attributed to anyone, it would be media outlets propagating the claim that he wanted people to drink bleach. However, the rise in bleach poisonings seems to have predated his statement, and pundit's subsequent interpretation https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/38-rise-in-bleach-poisoning-predates-trumps-suggestion-data-show/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/38-rise-in-bleach-po... There are plenty of exceptional reasons to have a low opinion of the man, and call him irresponsible with the platform he had. No reason to make up more.
busymom0 5y ago
He literally never talked about injecting bleach. Please stop spreading misinformation. Instead of criticizing him on important issues like not pardoning Assange/Snowden, ideologues keep making stuff up and destroying their own credibility. I provided my sources in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28004191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28004191 As for the rise of bleach ingestion, that was happening prior to this out of context news even admitted by left leaning sources.
- stonogo 5y ago
  Maybe you should have been at the press conference to explain his remarks, because it seems a lot of people didn't interpret things correctly: https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/ https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/
  - busymom0 5y ago
    Your statement is very similar to saying "maybe she shouldn't have worn a short skirt if she didn't want to get raped". Top health official is talking about UV light killing the virus, person replies asking questions about possibility of UV light used for disinfecting the lungs as the technology was patented that week, media turns this into "person tells people to inject bleach", ideologues believe whatever media sells them without any questioning, ideologues blame the person instead of media for spreading disinformation, ideologues censor the person. Partisan hackery isn't helping when the media is lying and ideologues choose to go along with it. Maybe it's time for ideologues to re-consider their own beliefs.
    - stonogo 5y ago
      How exactly do you draw that insulting "similarity"? I'm not blaming a single one of those poisoning cases on the victims; I'm saying the message was obviously not clearly received by a lot of people. When I watched it live I couldn't even figure out if he was talking to his staff or the press pool, so I'm not surprised other people misinterpreted his words. I'm not even getting into whatever your crusade is against "the media."

Rather than trying to tease out the explicit meaning or jokes or subtext, we could just consider the rise of bleach ingestion at the time. Responsible people with a platform speak responsibly.

crocodiletears 5y ago

Given he never mentions bleach, or even suggested disinfectant as anything other than a quizzical aside to an aide - if the rise in bleach poisonings were to be attributed to anyone, it would be media outlets propagating the claim that he wanted people to drink bleach. However, the rise in bleach poisonings seems to have predated his statement, and pundit's subsequent interpretation https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/38-rise-in-bleach-poisoning-predates-trumps-suggestion-data-show/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/38-rise-in-bleach-po... There are plenty of exceptional reasons to have a low opinion of the man, and call him irresponsible with the platform he had. No reason to make up more.

busymom0 5y ago

He literally never talked about injecting bleach. Please stop spreading misinformation. Instead of criticizing him on important issues like not pardoning Assange/Snowden, ideologues keep making stuff up and destroying their own credibility. I provided my sources in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28004191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28004191 As for the rise of bleach ingestion, that was happening prior to this out of context news even admitted by left leaning sources.

stonogo 5y ago
Maybe you should have been at the press conference to explain his remarks, because it seems a lot of people didn't interpret things correctly: https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/ https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/
- busymom0 5y ago
  Your statement is very similar to saying "maybe she shouldn't have worn a short skirt if she didn't want to get raped". Top health official is talking about UV light killing the virus, person replies asking questions about possibility of UV light used for disinfecting the lungs as the technology was patented that week, media turns this into "person tells people to inject bleach", ideologues believe whatever media sells them without any questioning, ideologues blame the person instead of media for spreading disinformation, ideologues censor the person. Partisan hackery isn't helping when the media is lying and ideologues choose to go along with it. Maybe it's time for ideologues to re-consider their own beliefs.
  - stonogo 5y ago
    How exactly do you draw that insulting "similarity"? I'm not blaming a single one of those poisoning cases on the victims; I'm saying the message was obviously not clearly received by a lot of people. When I watched it live I couldn't even figure out if he was talking to his staff or the press pool, so I'm not surprised other people misinterpreted his words. I'm not even getting into whatever your crusade is against "the media."