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> Discussion of value-systems are just hopeless, as there's no common ground. It boils down to freedom vs. safety, period. It's just that simple. In a free so
by cbozeman 5y ago
> Discussion of value-systems are just hopeless, as there's no common ground.
It boils down to freedom vs. safety, period. It's just that simple.
In a free society, you have to sacrifice safety. The safety people are fine to feel they way they want to feel, but they need to understand that argument is antithetical to American values. America is founded on the ideals of freedom; it was not founded on the ideals of safety.
- gdulli 5y agoNeither safety nor freedom are absolute, or are intended to be. It's treating them like they are that makes the discussion unhelpful. We have structures to keep you safe from murder, or from breathing cigarette smoke in your workplace. Where your freedom can hurt others, we value finding a middle ground. That's not new. Vaccines are already mandated in some situations and we don't fight about it. This topic is only controversial because some have found they can profit by turning it into a culture war. But we're talking about nudging the freedom/safety line a slight bit one way or the other. It's already in the middle. Losing one right doesn't mean that we're not qualitatively as free as we were yesterday.