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Best optimization of weather conditions has to be seasonal. Seattle and Portland may be horrible 8 months out of the year but the summer months are quite perfec

Best optimization of weather conditions has to be seasonal. Seattle and Portland may be horrible 8 months out of the year but the summer months are quite perfect. What I want to know are which cities are great seasonal cities in which I could potentially buy a condo for the high seasons, and then leave in the non-high seasons for a potential rental at a still competitive price. For example: SF sucks in the summer, but maybe the tourists don't know that.

kbenson 5y ago
> For example: SF sucks in the summer, but maybe the tourists don't know that. Actual SF, or surrounding areas? I would think SF is fairly nice in the summer with the ocean breeze. Sonoma county gets pretty warm in the summer as well, but SF proper always felt cooler to me. I can imagine San Jose being just as bad or worse though.
- ghaff 5y ago
  You do have the probably apocryphal Mark Twain "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." And you can really get the cold, grey city vibe. But, honestly for the most part, it's hard to find a lot of fault (for me) in SF climate most of the year. And I've spent a lot of time there even if I've never lived there. ADDED: And I wouldn't think most people would think anything in NoCal generally (or most of CA even more generally) "sucked" in the summer
  - kbenson 5y ago
    > I wouldn't think most people would think anything in NoCal generally (or most of CA even more generally) "sucked" in the summer Eh, week or longer periods of temperatures in the high 90's and low 100's when you're not at the coast isn't always pleasant, I could see how some people think it sucks, depending on how much you're required to be outside. It gets hotter the farther north and more inland you go for a while (even if you don't have to go inland much). In the end a lot is just what you're used to, I think.
    - ghaff 5y ago
      Central Valley (for me) is definitely less comfortable than western mountains, coastal mountains, and coast.
nprecup 5y ago
Summer in the PNW is no good - it's sunny every day for months straight! It's terrible!
- Arrath 5y ago
  I'll take those 8 months of drizzle, take the sun away thanks!
  - Afton 5y ago
    Right?! 80 degrees and sunburns? No thanks, I'll take my 52 and overcast thank you very much. You think I live here by accident? I wonder what the internet provider is in Forks,WA...
ojbyrne 5y ago
SF has microclimates and for my preferences the southeastern part of the city (the Mission, Potrero Hill, Dogpatch) have perfect summers. Highs of 65-75, and then at night the fog comes and cools things down for perfect sleep temperatures. On the western side of the city it’s just fog all day. Plus it’s always an impressive sight to see the fog come over the hills every day.
runarberg 5y ago
The excessive summer sun is actually a bug not a feature, especially if you factor in the diminished air quality with increased forest fires. Last summer everybody I know chaired when the rains finally came and cleared the air from all the particulates. Actually IMO the PNW would have a pretty sweet overall weather if only it would rain just a little more in the summer (say once a week / every two weeks).

kbenson 5y ago

> For example: SF sucks in the summer, but maybe the tourists don't know that. Actual SF, or surrounding areas? I would think SF is fairly nice in the summer with the ocean breeze. Sonoma county gets pretty warm in the summer as well, but SF proper always felt cooler to me. I can imagine San Jose being just as bad or worse though.

ghaff 5y ago
You do have the probably apocryphal Mark Twain "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." And you can really get the cold, grey city vibe. But, honestly for the most part, it's hard to find a lot of fault (for me) in SF climate most of the year. And I've spent a lot of time there even if I've never lived there. ADDED: And I wouldn't think most people would think anything in NoCal generally (or most of CA even more generally) "sucked" in the summer
- kbenson 5y ago
  > I wouldn't think most people would think anything in NoCal generally (or most of CA even more generally) "sucked" in the summer Eh, week or longer periods of temperatures in the high 90's and low 100's when you're not at the coast isn't always pleasant, I could see how some people think it sucks, depending on how much you're required to be outside. It gets hotter the farther north and more inland you go for a while (even if you don't have to go inland much). In the end a lot is just what you're used to, I think.
  - ghaff 5y ago
    Central Valley (for me) is definitely less comfortable than western mountains, coastal mountains, and coast.

nprecup 5y ago

Summer in the PNW is no good - it's sunny every day for months straight! It's terrible!

Arrath 5y ago
I'll take those 8 months of drizzle, take the sun away thanks!
- Afton 5y ago
  Right?! 80 degrees and sunburns? No thanks, I'll take my 52 and overcast thank you very much. You think I live here by accident? I wonder what the internet provider is in Forks,WA...

ojbyrne 5y ago

SF has microclimates and for my preferences the southeastern part of the city (the Mission, Potrero Hill, Dogpatch) have perfect summers. Highs of 65-75, and then at night the fog comes and cools things down for perfect sleep temperatures. On the western side of the city it’s just fog all day. Plus it’s always an impressive sight to see the fog come over the hills every day.

runarberg 5y ago

The excessive summer sun is actually a bug not a feature, especially if you factor in the diminished air quality with increased forest fires. Last summer everybody I know chaired when the rains finally came and cleared the air from all the particulates. Actually IMO the PNW would have a pretty sweet overall weather if only it would rain just a little more in the summer (say once a week / every two weeks).