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Wow, do I disagree. Tagging and visibility are two entirely separate things.

protomyth 15y ago
You hit the big UI problem and where Google failed. The fact that I tagged a picture has nothing to do with visibility. I added a personal note to the picture to give me more information. A simple discrete event. The fact somebody decided to add a part to the use case that now shares the photo is really bad design. Folks really need to stop themselves from making user actions have much longer reach than what the user actually did. It would probably be fine to have a "share button" appear next to the tag of the person's name. That shows that the picture is still private, but you might now want to share it with that specific person.
- hammock 15y ago
  One could argue that if you take a photo of someone, they ought to know that you took it of them. In fact that's an argument in support of auto-tagging. You can always untasg.
  - protomyth 15y ago
    I guess that's an argument, but I really cannot figure out a good reason for it. If I write on the back of a photo that I took the people on the photo, I have no obligation to send them a copy of the photo. It also creates some serious distraction for anyone with a public career. Does a singer need to be notified about every fan who takes her picture? Let's go a bit further down this hyper-connected, automatic world. Let's say Google Plus implements facial recognition. Seems like a good idea, saves you some time. So, I upload a ton of photos and they get automatically tagged. It would be very hard to consider anything private under those circumstances. Worse, I am truly using "the cloud". Maybe some of those photos need to be deleted or edited. At the end of it all, I wrote a note on a picture. Having additional things happen without permission is just a bad UI choice and leads to problems and apologies. And since someone decided the whole album is now shared, it could lead to some physical danger.
  - ktsmith 15y ago
    If I take a photo in public it may contain people that I don't even know. I have no obligation to give those people a copy of the photo nor do I have any obligation to tell them they were in my photo. This happens a LOT in popular public places and tourist attractions. If I don't know them I'm not going to tag them because I have no idea who they are, but I may want to share the event with people that I do know. Now with auto tagging these people I don't know are tagged in my photos and I have to share not only my photo of them with them, but the entire album? That seems to be really over reaching. Auto tagging and automatic sharing seems like the worst possible option to me.

You hit the big UI problem and where Google failed. The fact that I tagged a picture has nothing to do with visibility. I added a personal note to the picture to give me more information. A simple discrete event. The fact somebody decided to add a part to the use case that now shares the photo is really bad design. Folks really need to stop themselves from making user actions have much longer reach than what the user actually did. It would probably be fine to have a "share button" appear next to the tag of the person's name. That shows that the picture is still private, but you might now want to share it with that specific person.

hammock 15y ago
One could argue that if you take a photo of someone, they ought to know that you took it of them. In fact that's an argument in support of auto-tagging. You can always untasg.
- protomyth 15y ago
  I guess that's an argument, but I really cannot figure out a good reason for it. If I write on the back of a photo that I took the people on the photo, I have no obligation to send them a copy of the photo. It also creates some serious distraction for anyone with a public career. Does a singer need to be notified about every fan who takes her picture? Let's go a bit further down this hyper-connected, automatic world. Let's say Google Plus implements facial recognition. Seems like a good idea, saves you some time. So, I upload a ton of photos and they get automatically tagged. It would be very hard to consider anything private under those circumstances. Worse, I am truly using "the cloud". Maybe some of those photos need to be deleted or edited. At the end of it all, I wrote a note on a picture. Having additional things happen without permission is just a bad UI choice and leads to problems and apologies. And since someone decided the whole album is now shared, it could lead to some physical danger.
- ktsmith 15y ago
  If I take a photo in public it may contain people that I don't even know. I have no obligation to give those people a copy of the photo nor do I have any obligation to tell them they were in my photo. This happens a LOT in popular public places and tourist attractions. If I don't know them I'm not going to tag them because I have no idea who they are, but I may want to share the event with people that I do know. Now with auto tagging these people I don't know are tagged in my photos and I have to share not only my photo of them with them, but the entire album? That seems to be really over reaching. Auto tagging and automatic sharing seems like the worst possible option to me.