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I think it does make some intuitive sense (even if there is confusing messaging on this). If i tag someone in a picture, then clearly they should be able to se

I think it does make some intuitive sense (even if there is confusing messaging on this). If i tag someone in a picture, then clearly they should be able to see that picture (i mean they were there when it was taken so there should be no problem with that). Extending this to the album level makes some sense because presumably everything in an album is related to a particular event (so that person who was tagged would have been there for all of that). That being said there probably just needs to be better messaging on this so that users understand what exactly it means to tag someone.

yaix 15y ago
Clearly not. 1) It would make sense if you see the world only as one big group (i.e. without any "circles"), like Facebook does. But having different levels an types of relationships is G+'s strong point. This totally contradicts this point. 2) In Picasa, the setting was "private" and it was private. Now, that suddenly changes and there is no way back. Many people have relied on the former policy and know have a big "surprise, you are screwed" flashing on their screen. Not good. And there are more reasons, but these two are already more than sufficient.
ktsmith 15y ago
Allowing someone that was tagged in a photo to see the photo is fine with me. Letting them see the entire album doesn't make a bit of sense because there's not really a good way to automatically determine if the rest of the pictures in the album are relevant to that person. While you might make an album based on events I tend to make albums based on dates. During periods where I don't take a lot of pictures I might have all of the pictures in an album for a specific month. If I then tag a friend in a picture from a baseball game we went to he now has access to all of the pictures in that album which might include pictures from a private family outing or event. Could my organizational habits be changed? Sure, but I shouldn't have to. The much bigger problem I have with this is that the people tagged in your albums not only get the ability to see the entire album, but to re-share the album. I am extremely meticulous in whom I share anything with. I disable re-sharing on 99% of my posts that are to family and friends. I disable re-sharing on ALL of my shared photos. By using the tagging feature my desire to limit sharing is completely ignored. So while I might want to tag someone in a picture for my own benefit, especially if it was at an event where maybe I didn't know everyone very well, I won't use it if the albums are shared without my consent. edit: I just noticed that referencing someone with the +name or +email address notation in photo comments has the same effect of sharing the photo + album + re-share http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1299273 http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=129927...
- hammock 15y ago
  Allowing someone that was tagged in a photo to see the photo is fine with me. Letting them see the entire album doesn't make a bit of sense How many people realize that Facebook has been doing this for a long long time?
  - ktsmith 15y ago
    Probably not that many. I don't use facebook in large part due to their "everything is public" attitude so it doesn't surprise me. Google+ started off with the circles model and a control whom who share with model so this does surprise me.
Turing_Machine 15y ago
I agree that people should be able to see photos tagged with their name, though it's not a certainty that they were there. People often tag (e.g.) pictures of their kids with the names of the grandparents, so the grandparents will be sure to see them. On the dark side, there are also users who tag people maliciously (tagging a picture of Hitler with their boss's name, say). I don't agree with letting them see the whole album by default. Albums aren't necessarily associated with an event. If you have an album called "Family", you might want to let your buddy see the pictures of the family barbecue he attended, without necessarily sharing the picture of your wife breastfeeding.
kenjackson 15y ago
Extending this to the album level makes some sense because presumably everything in an album is related to a particular event (so that person who was tagged would have been there for all of that). I have many albums broken out by date. The fact that you were playing basketball with me at 10am doesn't mean you were at my sister's house that evening. Google is making social take a lot more energy than I care to give it. Circles seemed OK. But now having to break up my albums and tagging into visibility units is absurd. It's easier to just quit. G+ is making me really appreciate Facebook -- which I NEVER thought I'd say.

yaix 15y ago

Clearly not. 1) It would make sense if you see the world only as one big group (i.e. without any "circles"), like Facebook does. But having different levels an types of relationships is G+'s strong point. This totally contradicts this point. 2) In Picasa, the setting was "private" and it was private. Now, that suddenly changes and there is no way back. Many people have relied on the former policy and know have a big "surprise, you are screwed" flashing on their screen. Not good. And there are more reasons, but these two are already more than sufficient.

ktsmith 15y ago

Allowing someone that was tagged in a photo to see the photo is fine with me. Letting them see the entire album doesn't make a bit of sense because there's not really a good way to automatically determine if the rest of the pictures in the album are relevant to that person. While you might make an album based on events I tend to make albums based on dates. During periods where I don't take a lot of pictures I might have all of the pictures in an album for a specific month. If I then tag a friend in a picture from a baseball game we went to he now has access to all of the pictures in that album which might include pictures from a private family outing or event. Could my organizational habits be changed? Sure, but I shouldn't have to. The much bigger problem I have with this is that the people tagged in your albums not only get the ability to see the entire album, but to re-share the album. I am extremely meticulous in whom I share anything with. I disable re-sharing on 99% of my posts that are to family and friends. I disable re-sharing on ALL of my shared photos. By using the tagging feature my desire to limit sharing is completely ignored. So while I might want to tag someone in a picture for my own benefit, especially if it was at an event where maybe I didn't know everyone very well, I won't use it if the albums are shared without my consent. edit: I just noticed that referencing someone with the +name or +email address notation in photo comments has the same effect of sharing the photo + album + re-share http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1299273 http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=129927...

hammock 15y ago
Allowing someone that was tagged in a photo to see the photo is fine with me. Letting them see the entire album doesn't make a bit of sense How many people realize that Facebook has been doing this for a long long time?
- ktsmith 15y ago
  Probably not that many. I don't use facebook in large part due to their "everything is public" attitude so it doesn't surprise me. Google+ started off with the circles model and a control whom who share with model so this does surprise me.

Turing_Machine 15y ago

I agree that people should be able to see photos tagged with their name, though it's not a certainty that they were there. People often tag (e.g.) pictures of their kids with the names of the grandparents, so the grandparents will be sure to see them. On the dark side, there are also users who tag people maliciously (tagging a picture of Hitler with their boss's name, say). I don't agree with letting them see the whole album by default. Albums aren't necessarily associated with an event. If you have an album called "Family", you might want to let your buddy see the pictures of the family barbecue he attended, without necessarily sharing the picture of your wife breastfeeding.

kenjackson 15y ago

Extending this to the album level makes some sense because presumably everything in an album is related to a particular event (so that person who was tagged would have been there for all of that). I have many albums broken out by date. The fact that you were playing basketball with me at 10am doesn't mean you were at my sister's house that evening. Google is making social take a lot more energy than I care to give it. Circles seemed OK. But now having to break up my albums and tagging into visibility units is absurd. It's easier to just quit. G+ is making me really appreciate Facebook -- which I NEVER thought I'd say.