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I read it when I opened my G+ account, and it sounded to me pretty much like Buzz all over again. Hope that gets fixed soon. Only because some guy you barely k

by yaix 15y ago

I read it when I opened my G+ account, and it sounded to me pretty much like Buzz all over again. Hope that gets fixed soon. Only because some guy you barely know made his way into one of your holiday photos, it doesn't mean you want to share your complete vacations with him. Probably not even that one picture, why should you be forced to?

andrewcooke 15y ago
you're not being "forced" to. simply don't tag that person.
- patio11 15y ago
  I think it is more of a managing expectations issue. Consider another situation: you pay me $25 via check. I can now debit your bank account for $100,000. Surprised? "Don't write checks." doesn't quite cover it, does it? P.S. Don't write checks.
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  - darklajid 15y ago
    That is sure going off-topic, but - seeing that I never used checks in 30 years of my life, they are very 'popular' and common over here in Israel now. Can you share your bad experiences? For me that stuff was never relevant and something I heard 'old people' talk about. I feel like someone invites me to a party and wants to play the gramophone for us..
    - praptak 15y ago
      "... due to an unfixable security flaw in the way funds are now transferred electronically, worldwide, it is no longer safe to write personal checks" - Donald Knuth, on reasons for no longer writing his famous reward checks. Google for more info.
    - ktsmith 15y ago
      The way that ACH transfers is broken and a check contains all of the information you need to generate fake checks and/or initiate ACH transfers.
    - Groxx 15y ago
      The bad experiences stem from the fact that handing someone a check is literally handing them your bank account, and asking them to only withdraw as much as you wrote on it. There's essentially no protection except in the form of after-the-fact insurance to get you some of your money back in some situations. Which is similar to credit cards and debit cards, really. Sure, with CCs you can do a charge-back - but that's just a form of insurance. If the person who got your money withdrew it and left, the CC company would be left paying out of pocket (hence the large interest rates). It's ass-backwards. Since the internet appeared, banks should have been giving us ways to safeguard against this - for example, fixed-value transactions with a unique key. But we've got essentially nothing.
  - hammock 15y ago
    It's a learning issue. G+ is new and people don't know how it works. "I drove 1000 miles then ran out of gas stranded on the highway!!!!! Fix it!!!!!" We could argue all day about whether it's on Google to make an out of the box friendly UX (but remember, you can't please everyone) or on the user to figure it out and make the most of it. The old Apple vs Microsoft
  - ubernostrum 15y ago
    Of course, the counterpoint: Flickr's been doing this for as long as they've had the ability to tag people in photos. If you've got a photo whose privacy setting wouldn't allow the person to see it, though, they do pop up a notice saying that tagging someone gives them access to it.
  - jodrellblank 15y ago
    "Don't write checks." doesn't quite cover it, does it? It seems to cover it rather well.
- writetoalok 15y ago
  > simply don't tag that person. This seems like an arbitrary restriction. What if I want to tag lots of people but only share my tags or tagged photos with select circles?

by yaix 15y ago

andrewcooke 15y ago

you're not being "forced" to. simply don't tag that person.

patio11 15y ago
I think it is more of a managing expectations issue. Consider another situation: you pay me $25 via check. I can now debit your bank account for $100,000. Surprised? "Don't write checks." doesn't quite cover it, does it? P.S. Don't write checks.
- deleted 15y ago
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- darklajid 15y ago
  That is sure going off-topic, but - seeing that I never used checks in 30 years of my life, they are very 'popular' and common over here in Israel now. Can you share your bad experiences? For me that stuff was never relevant and something I heard 'old people' talk about. I feel like someone invites me to a party and wants to play the gramophone for us..
  - praptak 15y ago
    "... due to an unfixable security flaw in the way funds are now transferred electronically, worldwide, it is no longer safe to write personal checks" - Donald Knuth, on reasons for no longer writing his famous reward checks. Google for more info.
  - ktsmith 15y ago
    The way that ACH transfers is broken and a check contains all of the information you need to generate fake checks and/or initiate ACH transfers.
  - Groxx 15y ago
    The bad experiences stem from the fact that handing someone a check is literally handing them your bank account, and asking them to only withdraw as much as you wrote on it. There's essentially no protection except in the form of after-the-fact insurance to get you some of your money back in some situations. Which is similar to credit cards and debit cards, really. Sure, with CCs you can do a charge-back - but that's just a form of insurance. If the person who got your money withdrew it and left, the CC company would be left paying out of pocket (hence the large interest rates). It's ass-backwards. Since the internet appeared, banks should have been giving us ways to safeguard against this - for example, fixed-value transactions with a unique key. But we've got essentially nothing.
- hammock 15y ago
  It's a learning issue. G+ is new and people don't know how it works. "I drove 1000 miles then ran out of gas stranded on the highway!!!!! Fix it!!!!!" We could argue all day about whether it's on Google to make an out of the box friendly UX (but remember, you can't please everyone) or on the user to figure it out and make the most of it. The old Apple vs Microsoft
- ubernostrum 15y ago
  Of course, the counterpoint: Flickr's been doing this for as long as they've had the ability to tag people in photos. If you've got a photo whose privacy setting wouldn't allow the person to see it, though, they do pop up a notice saying that tagging someone gives them access to it.
- jodrellblank 15y ago
  "Don't write checks." doesn't quite cover it, does it? It seems to cover it rather well.
writetoalok 15y ago
> simply don't tag that person. This seems like an arbitrary restriction. What if I want to tag lots of people but only share my tags or tagged photos with select circles?