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I agree. I feel like there's 3 phases to learning a new language. Background: English first language, French second, and I've been trying to learn Japanese. T
by plainnoodles 5y ago
I agree. I feel like there's 3 phases to learning a new language.
Background: English first language, French second, and I've been trying to learn Japanese.
The three phases are:
1. Learning basic alphabet (if different from your own), basic grammar. Unlocks: being able to access more learning material and more rapid progress. Progress on these first building blocks is slow and can be discouraging.
2. Learning full grammar control. Even the most basic prose uses ~all of the tenses and conjugation rules. Unlocks: reading/watching non-educational native material.
3. Learning the culture and filling out vocab. Lots of languages are idiomatic, and understanding real-world usage can require just as much that you read Candide as that you memorize flashcards of more-obscure vocab (more-obscure meaning things like "chandelier". It's not an uncommon word, but a second-language learner probably won't run into it in wordbanks or anything.)
I think Duolingo is good for doing 1, and like, half of 2. I don't think it can get you to 3.
- dnautics 5y agoDuo is pretty good if your are a second language learner, with some courses/living experience under your belt and want to make sure you've covered all of the basic vocabulary. Like, maybe you never learned the word for "turkey" and it never came up.
- st1ck 5y agoFor 2, how often do you see Future Perfect Continuous or just Future Perfect anywhere outside of literary works? I'd put grammar at much lower priority than vocabulary & common phrases, since knowing just a bunch of words (at least in most languages) can get you very far.