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"There’s no good faith in limiting housing." Nope. You can not convince me that statement is always true. That's okay though! It would be boring if everyone a

• Schiendelman 5y ago
  All of the things you brought up are better with higher density - they aren't really debatable as much as I think you are misinformed.
  • TrispusAttucks 5y ago
    On the contrary. I am familiar with the argument you're making and the flawed government funded research that lead you (and many media) to believe that I am the one that is misinformed. This thread is old but before it closes I'd implore future netizens to check out the work from John W. Day and Charles Hall. The article [1] The Myth of the Sustainable City is a good summary of the work. If I had to summarize it it's a mix of [2] Goodharts Law and the [3] Outsourcing of Pollution. When a state imports energy (or materials) from another state to make its own state's pollution stats look better it's just outsourcing pollution. Not reducing it. And it obscures the region's actual climate impact. It's a shell game but it can't be played much longer. The gig is up. [1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-myth-of-the-sustainable-city/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-myth-of-the-s... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law [3] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/climate/outsourcing-carbon-emissions.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/clim... [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_concrete https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_conc...