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How is this any different from what Elon Musk told his investors for the past decade?

• 6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago
  I don’t think the lies are of the same type. Lying (or charitably, being unreasonably optimistic) about future timelines seems less egregious than faking a demo.
  • lvl100 5y ago
    In Tesla’s case, bigger the lie more they believed.
• millerm 5y ago
  I was wondering how soon someone would try to trash Tesla (or Elon) as it's completely off-topic and a false equivalence. I see a lot of Teslas on the road, as I also drive one. I see a lot of Superchargers around, and see (yup, I trust it) a lot of people around the world using them. I see a lot of Powerwalls getting sold and installed. I see huge Megapacks getting sold and installed. I see a lot of solar being sold and installed. I see manufacturing plants being built around the world. I see that Panasonic is selling Tesla millions upon millions of battery cells, so they must be going somewhere. I saw their earnings report for Q2 2021 and it sure seems like they are doing very well. I see they have massive data and super computing power, currently being used and being built. I see there are 70k+ people working for and getting paid to work for Tesla. Oh, FSD is late. We've all underestimated our projects. So, this is the equivalency you're looking for? I see betas of FSD in cars on the road. I know people that are actively testing it. It's a hard problem, not a lie. It's just someone being overly optimistic, not overtly optimistic. I'm an investor, I understand the problem because I know what I invest in. I am not angry nor do I believe it to be a lie.
  • misiti3780 5y ago
    It's not worth engaging with these idiots.