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The UK gives this level of care to many people routinely.
by Jenk 5y ago
The UK gives this level of care to many people routinely.
- hef19898 5y agoAs do France and Germany.
- tiagod 5y agoPortugal too. Our system is far from perfect (the best medication is sometimes prohibitively expensive for some people who really need it - chronic patients, pensioners) but there are many examples of our national health system investing heavily in particular individuals with little chance for survival. A recent example is health system paying for Zolgensma, the most expensive medication in the world, leading to millions of expense per year[1][2] on this medication alone for a very small amount of babies. [1] https://tvi24.iol.pt/sociedade/saude/estado-gastou-4-1-milhoes-de-euros-em-medicamento-para-a-atrofia-muscular-espinal https://tvi24.iol.pt/sociedade/saude/estado-gastou-4-1-milho... [2] https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-eyes-arrival-of-worlds-priciest-drug/ https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-eyes-arrival-of-world...
- simonh 5y agoIt also does so to anyone who needs it regardless of ability to pay, and at overall half the cost of health care per person in the population compared to the US. You can also still pay for enhanced private health care if you want.
- iammisc 5y agoAnd yet, while many american insurers cover expensive gene therapies, European autorhities simply pretend the drugs are unsafe and refuse to cover them. This sort of thing goes both ways
- Jenk 5y agoGene therapy is available on the NHS in the UK. And the American system that is systematically bankrupting sick people for profit is a damn sight less perfect than the European authorities issues. Yes, it goes both ways, but it goes much further one way over the other.
- iammisc 5y ago> Yes, it goes both ways, but it goes much further one way over the other. That's fair. For gene therapy, I was referring to Zolgensma, which was delayed substantially in Europe and forced many to seek treatment in America. The delay was mainly due to cost savings, and the delay was clinically meaningful (since treatment is time sensitive).
- Jenk 5y agohttps://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/03/nhs-england-strikes-deal-on-life-saving-gene-therapy-drug-that-can-help-babies-with-rare-genetic-disease-move-and-walk/ https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/03/nhs-england-strikes-deal-... That's available too.
- iammisc 5y agoI acknowledged this: > delayed substantially in Europe In the meantime, between when FDA approved v NHS, children became debilitated.
- Jenk 5y agoFair dos. I haven't looked but is it possible there are some vice-versa examples? Anyway. At least with the NHS you won't be expected to pay the millions per dose fees, via insurance or other means.