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Great way to avoid answering the question ( the money which France contributes still is not your money ). And this 26 Billion, is this 'netto' or 'bruto' ?

greatgib 5y ago
"Help yourself" but take care that the contributions have increased a lot in the last year and i don't find a link in English for 2020 or 2021. (in 2019) https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/eu-budget-contributions-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/eu-budget-contrib... (in 2017) https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-budget/ https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-... My estimation is that my personal contribution to Europe should be between 500 € to 2000 € a year. Sure, not all money is wasted, hopefully, but still if you accumulate all bullshit jobs and reports like this one over a year, this is still a shit load of money that you be put in better usage. Note: I don't say that all europe jobs and reports are bullshits, are the opposite, a lot of them are quite good, and most of the time of better usage and quality than european national governments in my opinion.
- the-dude 5y ago
  So from your 2017 source ( that is what we have easily available ) : France 'contributed' ~ € 7.5 Billon netto to the EU. Which is something totally different than € 26 Billion. And it still isn't your money.
  - greatgib 5y ago
    As I told you, take care, because it raised a lot since 2017. Here is a link in French, but at least you will have an evolution graph with 2021: https://www.ifrap.org/europe-et-international/contribution-de-la-france-lue-737-entre-2017-2027 https://www.ifrap.org/europe-et-international/contribution-d... The other netto of the other link is not "justified", not official documents, but let's suppose it is correct, and that it evolved in proportion, we would be at least, as of today, at 11 Billions NET. That is still quite a number. But you don't stop repeating that it is not my money as a French tax payer, can you explicit what you mean? because so far you just say that "as a fact" and it does not make any sense!

greatgib 5y ago

"Help yourself" but take care that the contributions have increased a lot in the last year and i don't find a link in English for 2020 or 2021. (in 2019) https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/eu-budget-contributions-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/eu-budget-contrib... (in 2017) https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-budget/ https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-... My estimation is that my personal contribution to Europe should be between 500 € to 2000 € a year. Sure, not all money is wasted, hopefully, but still if you accumulate all bullshit jobs and reports like this one over a year, this is still a shit load of money that you be put in better usage. Note: I don't say that all europe jobs and reports are bullshits, are the opposite, a lot of them are quite good, and most of the time of better usage and quality than european national governments in my opinion.

the-dude 5y ago
So from your 2017 source ( that is what we have easily available ) : France 'contributed' ~ € 7.5 Billon netto to the EU. Which is something totally different than € 26 Billion. And it still isn't your money.
- greatgib 5y ago
  As I told you, take care, because it raised a lot since 2017. Here is a link in French, but at least you will have an evolution graph with 2021: https://www.ifrap.org/europe-et-international/contribution-de-la-france-lue-737-entre-2017-2027 https://www.ifrap.org/europe-et-international/contribution-d... The other netto of the other link is not "justified", not official documents, but let's suppose it is correct, and that it evolved in proportion, we would be at least, as of today, at 11 Billions NET. That is still quite a number. But you don't stop repeating that it is not my money as a French tax payer, can you explicit what you mean? because so far you just say that "as a fact" and it does not make any sense!