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Very few governments don't store data like that, America and it lack of standardized documentation is an outliner in the developed world.

drstewart 5y ago
Do you have a source for this? I'm curious to see a chart of "centralization of standardized documentation" by country to validate your claims.
- Dma54rhs 5y ago
  Source for what, it's so common knowledge that you should list countries that don't do centralized id besides USA in the developed world. Search for voting id laws is probably a good start. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019/06/06/better-security-for-id-documents-council-adopts-new-rules/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019... These are from 2019,but the documents have always existed. And each country is using this guideline for their countries.
  - johannes1234321 5y ago
    having a givernment issued ID neither means all data is being stored, nor that itnis stored centralized. In Germany for instance most data is held by the municipality and centralization happens slowly and centralizing pictures is only a recent proposal.
    - croes 5y ago
      Because it's not necessary. Since 2017 police and secret agencies can access all photos 24/7 per web access.
      - est31 5y ago
        The centralization proposal the person you are replying to was done because that API access you are talking about apparently hasn't been implemented in a wide spread manner. So now each Bundesland can create their own database. https://www.golem.de/news/trotz-kritik-smartphone-ausweis-und-passfoto-datenbanken-beschlossen-2105-156671.html https://www.golem.de/news/trotz-kritik-smartphone-ausweis-un...
wil421 5y ago
Not according to comments on this post. Lots of governments in Europe keep records at the city and state level. Unless they are passports.
- onion2k 5y ago
  The UK isn't technically in Europe any more (except geographically), but there are no city or state (county) level photo IDs here. Everything is national and managed by the central government.
  - ithinkso 5y ago
    It's in Europe the same way it has always been. UK is no longer in the EU
    - alibarber 5y ago
      And even within the EU I’d still wager that there are many different systems in different countries. Almost like it’s a block of diverse individual nations and not just a single entity that you can make lazy comparisons with.
- sofixa 5y ago
  Like which ones? I can't see the comments you're referring to.
  - wil421 5y ago
    Look at johannes1234321 comment below.
- Dma54rhs 5y ago
  Its all centrally forced, the security, the implementation. They are printed the same place, same way, a lot of directives straight from Brussels.
- sp332 5y ago
  And the passports have photos, right?

drstewart 5y ago

Do you have a source for this? I'm curious to see a chart of "centralization of standardized documentation" by country to validate your claims.

Dma54rhs 5y ago
Source for what, it's so common knowledge that you should list countries that don't do centralized id besides USA in the developed world. Search for voting id laws is probably a good start. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019/06/06/better-security-for-id-documents-council-adopts-new-rules/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019... These are from 2019,but the documents have always existed. And each country is using this guideline for their countries.
- johannes1234321 5y ago
  having a givernment issued ID neither means all data is being stored, nor that itnis stored centralized. In Germany for instance most data is held by the municipality and centralization happens slowly and centralizing pictures is only a recent proposal.
  - croes 5y ago
    Because it's not necessary. Since 2017 police and secret agencies can access all photos 24/7 per web access.
    - est31 5y ago
      The centralization proposal the person you are replying to was done because that API access you are talking about apparently hasn't been implemented in a wide spread manner. So now each Bundesland can create their own database. https://www.golem.de/news/trotz-kritik-smartphone-ausweis-und-passfoto-datenbanken-beschlossen-2105-156671.html https://www.golem.de/news/trotz-kritik-smartphone-ausweis-un...

wil421 5y ago

Not according to comments on this post. Lots of governments in Europe keep records at the city and state level. Unless they are passports.

onion2k 5y ago
The UK isn't technically in Europe any more (except geographically), but there are no city or state (county) level photo IDs here. Everything is national and managed by the central government.
- ithinkso 5y ago
  It's in Europe the same way it has always been. UK is no longer in the EU
  - alibarber 5y ago
    And even within the EU I’d still wager that there are many different systems in different countries. Almost like it’s a block of diverse individual nations and not just a single entity that you can make lazy comparisons with.
sofixa 5y ago
Like which ones? I can't see the comments you're referring to.
- wil421 5y ago
  Look at johannes1234321 comment below.
Dma54rhs 5y ago
Its all centrally forced, the security, the implementation. They are printed the same place, same way, a lot of directives straight from Brussels.
sp332 5y ago
And the passports have photos, right?