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NIMBY found What exactly is it about a wind turbine within 1000m of your home that bothers you?

inglor_cz 5y ago
Yes, I am not totally indifferent to where I live. In other contexts, this attitude might be called "activism" and viewed positively. As to your question: sound and sight. I definitely believe in smarter urban planning that just does not mash power plants and residential building together.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  Urban planning that mashes together residential, retail, light industry and clean power sounds a lot smarter than American style urban planning that forces you to drive everywhere.
  - inglor_cz 5y ago
    As a normal citizen, you do not really need to drive to your power station, though. Wind turbines operate without personnel and transmission losses from one extra km of cable are negligible. Only maintenance needs to visit them from time to time.
    - bryanlarsen 5y ago
      Wind turbines have almost zero footprint, a few square meters per square kilometer. They can either be installed where people are or where people aren't. Far better for the environment if they are installed in populated regions.
      - fomine3 5y ago
        What's the pros?
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  It is absolutely activism. Not all activism is good. Activism is also the reason we have too many single-homes and not enough low-income housing or transportation—because we tend to give too much weight to the few individuals who are vehemently opposed to these changes, and not to the much broader good they can generate for the general public.
- shapefrog 5y ago
  NIMBYISM is activism. Your comments are classic NIMBY - you want these things but in someone elses back yard. There are 'activists' everywhere, there are even 'activists' who campaign for the age of consent to be lowered because they want to have sex with 12 year olds. Being an activist is only as positive as the cause and the motives.
  - inglor_cz 5y ago
    "Your comments are classic NIMBY - you want these things but in someone elses back yard." No, I want them in reasonable distance from villages and cities. Say, 1 and more km. I do not want to push them into anyone's backyard. And that is actually entirely possible, unlike with, say, highways or railways that fundamentally connect human habitation with another human habitation. Even Europe has a lot of empty corners.

Yes, I am not totally indifferent to where I live. In other contexts, this attitude might be called "activism" and viewed positively. As to your question: sound and sight. I definitely believe in smarter urban planning that just does not mash power plants and residential building together.

bryanlarsen 5y ago
Urban planning that mashes together residential, retail, light industry and clean power sounds a lot smarter than American style urban planning that forces you to drive everywhere.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  As a normal citizen, you do not really need to drive to your power station, though. Wind turbines operate without personnel and transmission losses from one extra km of cable are negligible. Only maintenance needs to visit them from time to time.
  - bryanlarsen 5y ago
    Wind turbines have almost zero footprint, a few square meters per square kilometer. They can either be installed where people are or where people aren't. Far better for the environment if they are installed in populated regions.
    - fomine3 5y ago
      What's the pros?
Wowfunhappy 5y ago
It is absolutely activism. Not all activism is good. Activism is also the reason we have too many single-homes and not enough low-income housing or transportation—because we tend to give too much weight to the few individuals who are vehemently opposed to these changes, and not to the much broader good they can generate for the general public.
shapefrog 5y ago
NIMBYISM is activism. Your comments are classic NIMBY - you want these things but in someone elses back yard. There are 'activists' everywhere, there are even 'activists' who campaign for the age of consent to be lowered because they want to have sex with 12 year olds. Being an activist is only as positive as the cause and the motives.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  "Your comments are classic NIMBY - you want these things but in someone elses back yard." No, I want them in reasonable distance from villages and cities. Say, 1 and more km. I do not want to push them into anyone's backyard. And that is actually entirely possible, unlike with, say, highways or railways that fundamentally connect human habitation with another human habitation. Even Europe has a lot of empty corners.