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Not the GP, but I'm imagining that they meant that in the same way the 'War on Drugs' was not discrimination based on skin color, it had a disproportinate impac

Not the GP, but I'm imagining that they meant that in the same way the 'War on Drugs' was not discrimination based on skin color, it had a disproportinate impact on African-American communities (which for all accounts was by design). Lower socioeconomic communities have poorer access to vaccinations and lower rates of vaccination. Just because something does not claim to discriminate by race, does not make it true. Measures to segregate the unvaccinated WILL impact lower socioeconomic communities more than middle class communities.

Animats 5y ago
Lower socioeconomic communities have poorer access to vaccinations Early on, maybe. Not now. Find the poorest zip code in Alabama, 35203, which is in Birmingham. Look it up in Vaccines.gov. Nearest vaccination locations: Publix Supermarket, 0.79 miles, in stock. UAB Hospital, 1.03 miles, in stock. Walgreens, 1.62 miles. CVS, 1.65 and 1.74 miles. Legion Field vaccination clinic, 1.99 miles. There are a dozen more within 5 miles. That's a populated area. If you look for Cotopia, AL, a small remote town in the poorest county in Alabama, where the post office closed in 1986, it's not quite as easy. You have to go 9 miles, to the nearest WalMart (#10-0731). If you can make it to a WalMart, a CVS, or a Walgreens, you can get vaccinated.
- ticviking 5y ago
  What do poor folks in Alabama have a strong cultural memory of? The Tuskegee airmen experiments. Skepticism based on actual historical injustice isn’t the same thing as Karen’s who think that vaccines cause autism, and will require totally different solutions
  - Animats 5y ago
    The Tuskegee airmen experiments. Which confuses two completely different events, the Tuskegee untreated syphilis experiment and the Tuskegee airmen, both over half a century ago.
  - Fine-Cut4983 5y ago
    The US government has historically conducted quite a bit of experimentation on broad swaths of the population [1], not just your favored marginalized groups. So it sounds like "Karen" is perfectly justified in her skepticism. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentatio...

Animats 5y ago

Lower socioeconomic communities have poorer access to vaccinations Early on, maybe. Not now. Find the poorest zip code in Alabama, 35203, which is in Birmingham. Look it up in Vaccines.gov. Nearest vaccination locations: Publix Supermarket, 0.79 miles, in stock. UAB Hospital, 1.03 miles, in stock. Walgreens, 1.62 miles. CVS, 1.65 and 1.74 miles. Legion Field vaccination clinic, 1.99 miles. There are a dozen more within 5 miles. That's a populated area. If you look for Cotopia, AL, a small remote town in the poorest county in Alabama, where the post office closed in 1986, it's not quite as easy. You have to go 9 miles, to the nearest WalMart (#10-0731). If you can make it to a WalMart, a CVS, or a Walgreens, you can get vaccinated.

ticviking 5y ago
What do poor folks in Alabama have a strong cultural memory of? The Tuskegee airmen experiments. Skepticism based on actual historical injustice isn’t the same thing as Karen’s who think that vaccines cause autism, and will require totally different solutions
- Animats 5y ago
  The Tuskegee airmen experiments. Which confuses two completely different events, the Tuskegee untreated syphilis experiment and the Tuskegee airmen, both over half a century ago.
- Fine-Cut4983 5y ago
  The US government has historically conducted quite a bit of experimentation on broad swaths of the population [1], not just your favored marginalized groups. So it sounds like "Karen" is perfectly justified in her skepticism. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentatio...