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As mentioned in the article, this date is being pushed back to (at least) mid-October.

chitowneats 5y ago
At which point you will be dismissed if you have not found and secured a remote position within the company. That part of the policy has not changed. Until they announce it has we should assume they are intending to follow though.
- shaklee3 5y ago
  It's a choice though. You could just get vaccinated and not worry about getting fired.
  - atatatat 5y ago
    That is the dichotomy that is being criticized, yes.
  - joshuahughes 5y ago
    "just get vaccinated and not worry about getting fired" The word 'just' must be one of the most heavily used words of the last 18 months. The problem is that 'just' is the start of a slippery slope. Governments and organisations rarely withdraw authoritarian diktats, once we've allowed them in.
    - shaklee3 5y ago
      The vaccine has an overwhelming amount of data showing it's effective, and very little showing side effects. At some point it's a national responsibility to get it. If you don't, then there's nothing that says you should have a job at faang.
      - chitowneats 5y ago
        So effective that we're going back to mask mandates, talking feverishly about boosters, etc. And this is for already vaccinated individuals. Can't blame the boogeyman "anti-vaxxers" for increases in cases and hospitalizations in countries where Pfizer is readily admitting that the "immunity" granted by their product is "waning": https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-v... Are we ready to have an adult conversation about mRNA gene therapy and how it differs from traditional vaccines? We're up to 3 shots a year already. Typical vaccines protect the individual for the rest of their life.
        shaklee3 5y ago
        They're going back to mask mandates because the numbers are going back up due to unvaccinated people... I thought this was all clear?
        chitowneats 5y ago
        Did you even read the article? Vax rates in Israel are extremely high.
        shaklee3 5y ago
        Of course. I've seen that headline in plenty of places. But as soon as you scroll past the headline you see: "However, the two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data published Thursday."
      - reader_mode 5y ago
        >The vaccine has an overwhelming amount of data showing it's effective, and very little showing side effects. I see studies exploring long term/subtle effects of COVID, along with controls that were not infected. I don't see a lot of "vaccinated but not infected" and "vaccinated and infected" groups in these studies. I'd be far more convinced if those studies were done.

At which point you will be dismissed if you have not found and secured a remote position within the company. That part of the policy has not changed. Until they announce it has we should assume they are intending to follow though.

shaklee3 5y ago
It's a choice though. You could just get vaccinated and not worry about getting fired.
- atatatat 5y ago
  That is the dichotomy that is being criticized, yes.
- joshuahughes 5y ago
  "just get vaccinated and not worry about getting fired" The word 'just' must be one of the most heavily used words of the last 18 months. The problem is that 'just' is the start of a slippery slope. Governments and organisations rarely withdraw authoritarian diktats, once we've allowed them in.
  - shaklee3 5y ago
    The vaccine has an overwhelming amount of data showing it's effective, and very little showing side effects. At some point it's a national responsibility to get it. If you don't, then there's nothing that says you should have a job at faang.
    - chitowneats 5y ago
      So effective that we're going back to mask mandates, talking feverishly about boosters, etc. And this is for already vaccinated individuals. Can't blame the boogeyman "anti-vaxxers" for increases in cases and hospitalizations in countries where Pfizer is readily admitting that the "immunity" granted by their product is "waning": https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-v... Are we ready to have an adult conversation about mRNA gene therapy and how it differs from traditional vaccines? We're up to 3 shots a year already. Typical vaccines protect the individual for the rest of their life.
      - shaklee3 5y ago
        They're going back to mask mandates because the numbers are going back up due to unvaccinated people... I thought this was all clear?
        chitowneats 5y ago
        Did you even read the article? Vax rates in Israel are extremely high.
        shaklee3 5y ago
        Of course. I've seen that headline in plenty of places. But as soon as you scroll past the headline you see: "However, the two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data published Thursday."
    - reader_mode 5y ago
      >The vaccine has an overwhelming amount of data showing it's effective, and very little showing side effects. I see studies exploring long term/subtle effects of COVID, along with controls that were not infected. I don't see a lot of "vaccinated but not infected" and "vaccinated and infected" groups in these studies. I'd be far more convinced if those studies were done.