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"They can still take the bus but they must sit in the back" I'm getting downvoted but people who refuse to get vaccinated tend to be poor and minorities. And w
by TeeMassive 5y ago
"They can still take the bus but they must sit in the back"
I'm getting downvoted but people who refuse to get vaccinated tend to be poor and minorities. And who can blame them for not wanting the government injecting a needle inside their body given the US history?
PS: I'm not antivax by any means, I got my two shots.
- penny4yourthot 5y agoI'm trying to think how this could be even close to the same situation. I realize it's hard to believe I'm not being snarky, but I'm legitimately asking. How is this similar to segregation based on skin color?
- TeeMassive 5y agoReligious convictions, lack of trust, fear of getting an experimental vaccine (which it is under the laws they were authorized and developed). To answer to your question, those things are very hard to change although not at hard as race.
- jimmydorry 5y agoNot the GP, but I'm imagining that they meant that in the same way the 'War on Drugs' was not discrimination based on skin color, it had a disproportinate impact on African-American communities (which for all accounts was by design). Lower socioeconomic communities have poorer access to vaccinations and lower rates of vaccination. Just because something does not claim to discriminate by race, does not make it true. Measures to segregate the unvaccinated WILL impact lower socioeconomic communities more than middle class communities.
- Animats 5y agoLower socioeconomic communities have poorer access to vaccinations Early on, maybe. Not now. Find the poorest zip code in Alabama, 35203, which is in Birmingham. Look it up in Vaccines.gov. Nearest vaccination locations: Publix Supermarket, 0.79 miles, in stock. UAB Hospital, 1.03 miles, in stock. Walgreens, 1.62 miles. CVS, 1.65 and 1.74 miles. Legion Field vaccination clinic, 1.99 miles. There are a dozen more within 5 miles. That's a populated area. If you look for Cotopia, AL, a small remote town in the poorest county in Alabama, where the post office closed in 1986, it's not quite as easy. You have to go 9 miles, to the nearest WalMart (#10-0731). If you can make it to a WalMart, a CVS, or a Walgreens, you can get vaccinated.
- ticviking 5y agoWhat do poor folks in Alabama have a strong cultural memory of? The Tuskegee airmen experiments. Skepticism based on actual historical injustice isn’t the same thing as Karen’s who think that vaccines cause autism, and will require totally different solutions
- Animats 5y agoThe Tuskegee airmen experiments. Which confuses two completely different events, the Tuskegee untreated syphilis experiment and the Tuskegee airmen, both over half a century ago.
- Fine-Cut4983 5y agoThe US government has historically conducted quite a bit of experimentation on broad swaths of the population [1], not just your favored marginalized groups. So it sounds like "Karen" is perfectly justified in her skepticism. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentatio...
- howaboutnope 5y ago> They who have put out the people's eyes reproach them of their blindness. -- John Milton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiCeqySVhCE&t=1255s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiCeqySVhCE&t=1255s Intellectuals focusing on how the unwashed masses are the reason we can't have nice things would do well to take a long, hard look at themselves and those they serve.
- ticviking 5y agoI know many who are literally just waiting for it to be approved the regular way rather than an EUA. This nation has done some horrific human experimentation on marginalized groups and always claimed they were “helping people and saving lives.” I don’t begrudge folks who have a good reason to distrust the system and demand that we at least do the usual baseline caution in investigating brand new tech
- hef19898 5y agoFunny how most people have zero idea what the difference between EUA and the "normal way" means. Buying FDA registered non-drugs and medical devices doesn't seem to bother as much so.