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As far as I know the vaccine got emergency use authorization it is not fully approved by FDA yet and what I as a layman need to know about newly invented mRNA v

As far as I know the vaccine got emergency use authorization it is not fully approved by FDA yet and what I as a layman need to know about newly invented mRNA vaccine. Scientists say that it is not a gene therapy but what are long term consequences on human DNA of mRNA vaccine nobody knows or has examined as of today.

jeffrallen 5y ago
Moderna and Pfizer are fully approved in Switzerland, not emergency approved. Fwiw.
scotty79 5y ago
You need to know that 4 billion doses were given to at least 2 billion people in the world and it's time to stop playing like you have a reasonable excuse for your unfounded fear.
- mrkramer 5y ago
  Why would I believe "Big Pharma" and their scientists when I know this for example: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/sugar-industry-withheld-possible-evidence-of-cancer-link-50-years-ago-researchers-say https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/sugar-industry-withheld... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/12/sugar-industry-paid-research-heart-disease-jama-report https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/12/sugar-indust... You think they are any different from sugar industry? “History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes” - Mark Twain
  - scotty79 5y ago
    Right. So you just belive that you are way smarter about this than over 2 billion people and their doctors. Way more plausible. Have your wonderful source of insight prevent you from consuming any sugar ever from the start? /s Somebody lied to you so now you won't believe anyone else about anything else ever?
    - mrkramer 5y ago
      >So you just believe that you are way smarter about this than over 2 billion people and their doctors. "I can predict the movement of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of crowds." - Isaac Newton “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” - Albert Einstein Time will show that is all I can say right now.
      - scotty79 5y ago
        Time will show alright. But I doubt you'll learn from it. You seem to have a great trouble learning from what time have shown about covid vaccines so far.
kmos17 5y ago
mRNA is not new, dates back to the 90’s or even earlier I think. Vaccines are safe and very well established dating back to the 18th century. I think it can be argued vaccines are one of the most successful medical advances ever, having saved millions from horrible diseases. So we are not exactly dealing with completely unproven science here, and I would much more readily trust the vast majority of the scientific and medical community on this than some quack on the internet, or some random articles. Yes big pharma should be looked at suspiciously, but that’s primarily an outgrowth of out of control capitalism. Most scientists get into this to cure diseases and help people.

jeffrallen 5y ago

Moderna and Pfizer are fully approved in Switzerland, not emergency approved. Fwiw.

scotty79 5y ago

You need to know that 4 billion doses were given to at least 2 billion people in the world and it's time to stop playing like you have a reasonable excuse for your unfounded fear.

mrkramer 5y ago
Why would I believe "Big Pharma" and their scientists when I know this for example: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/sugar-industry-withheld-possible-evidence-of-cancer-link-50-years-ago-researchers-say https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/sugar-industry-withheld... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/12/sugar-industry-paid-research-heart-disease-jama-report https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/12/sugar-indust... You think they are any different from sugar industry? “History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes” - Mark Twain
- scotty79 5y ago
  Right. So you just belive that you are way smarter about this than over 2 billion people and their doctors. Way more plausible. Have your wonderful source of insight prevent you from consuming any sugar ever from the start? /s Somebody lied to you so now you won't believe anyone else about anything else ever?
  - mrkramer 5y ago
    >So you just believe that you are way smarter about this than over 2 billion people and their doctors. "I can predict the movement of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of crowds." - Isaac Newton “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” - Albert Einstein Time will show that is all I can say right now.
    - scotty79 5y ago
      Time will show alright. But I doubt you'll learn from it. You seem to have a great trouble learning from what time have shown about covid vaccines so far.

kmos17 5y ago

mRNA is not new, dates back to the 90’s or even earlier I think. Vaccines are safe and very well established dating back to the 18th century. I think it can be argued vaccines are one of the most successful medical advances ever, having saved millions from horrible diseases. So we are not exactly dealing with completely unproven science here, and I would much more readily trust the vast majority of the scientific and medical community on this than some quack on the internet, or some random articles. Yes big pharma should be looked at suspiciously, but that’s primarily an outgrowth of out of control capitalism. Most scientists get into this to cure diseases and help people.