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Everybody needs an electric car.

by nikkinana 5y ago

misiti3780 5y ago
The need to more or less halve in price and we need A LOT more chargers.
jchanimal 5y ago
You mean an electric cargo bike.
- kingsloi 5y ago
  My wife and I just had a day in Chicago, our original plans fell through so we ended up going on a little bike ride on the new(?) e-bikes by Divvy/Lyft, the actual renting of it was complete garbage (I've never used ApplePay before, so I had to set that up, cards didn't work, etc), but the actual e-bikes were bloody fantastic, a really fantastic way to experience the city, I think we did 10-20 miles and barely broke a sweat. I think we're going to buy one/two so I can nip out to groceries and not drive
  - jchrisa 5y ago
    The one I ride has a box in the front that can hold 3 grownups (or a monster trip to the garden store). The motor means I can go 28 mph. On the occasional day where we have a rental car (grandma in town) sometimes I drive the kids to school and I am always surprised how long it takes. On the bike I never wait in a queue, and I always get the best parking. Maybe they cost a lot for a bike but they are faster, cheaper, and more fun than a minivan: https://www.splendidcycles.com/products/riese-and-muller/riese-muller-cargo-bikes https://www.splendidcycles.com/products/riese-and-muller/rie... (see "Triple Badger Box for Packster 80" it comes with 6 seat belts.)
    - taylodl 5y ago
      Those prices are going to seriously discourage adoption. I can buy a Honda off road capable motorcycle that can go anywhere for half the money - and it would still be a better environmental investment than driving my Honda Civic!
_ink_ 5y ago
It would be better if we could move away from a car per person transportation system to something more energy efficient.
- bakuninsbart 5y ago
  That idea is appealing to people living in larger, more concentrated, urban environments, and a huge boogeyman for everyone else, thus becoming a big point of friction. There is currently no real alternative to cars for people in rural environments, so we need good electric cars there. At the same time, cars in cities are completely barbaric and should not have been a part of city planning in the first place. There are good solutions that still enable people to enter cities with little problem, like largescale suburban parking with express busses/metros. But while cars should be slowly outphased, for the foreseeable future, we will have to rely on personal transport in more rural areas, so we should do our very best to integrate it with more advanced systems in urban areas.

Everybody needs an electric car.

misiti3780 5y ago

The need to more or less halve in price and we need A LOT more chargers.

jchanimal 5y ago

You mean an electric cargo bike.

kingsloi 5y ago
My wife and I just had a day in Chicago, our original plans fell through so we ended up going on a little bike ride on the new(?) e-bikes by Divvy/Lyft, the actual renting of it was complete garbage (I've never used ApplePay before, so I had to set that up, cards didn't work, etc), but the actual e-bikes were bloody fantastic, a really fantastic way to experience the city, I think we did 10-20 miles and barely broke a sweat. I think we're going to buy one/two so I can nip out to groceries and not drive
- jchrisa 5y ago
  The one I ride has a box in the front that can hold 3 grownups (or a monster trip to the garden store). The motor means I can go 28 mph. On the occasional day where we have a rental car (grandma in town) sometimes I drive the kids to school and I am always surprised how long it takes. On the bike I never wait in a queue, and I always get the best parking. Maybe they cost a lot for a bike but they are faster, cheaper, and more fun than a minivan: https://www.splendidcycles.com/products/riese-and-muller/riese-muller-cargo-bikes https://www.splendidcycles.com/products/riese-and-muller/rie... (see "Triple Badger Box for Packster 80" it comes with 6 seat belts.)
  - taylodl 5y ago
    Those prices are going to seriously discourage adoption. I can buy a Honda off road capable motorcycle that can go anywhere for half the money - and it would still be a better environmental investment than driving my Honda Civic!

_ink_ 5y ago

It would be better if we could move away from a car per person transportation system to something more energy efficient.

bakuninsbart 5y ago
That idea is appealing to people living in larger, more concentrated, urban environments, and a huge boogeyman for everyone else, thus becoming a big point of friction. There is currently no real alternative to cars for people in rural environments, so we need good electric cars there. At the same time, cars in cities are completely barbaric and should not have been a part of city planning in the first place. There are good solutions that still enable people to enter cities with little problem, like largescale suburban parking with express busses/metros. But while cars should be slowly outphased, for the foreseeable future, we will have to rely on personal transport in more rural areas, so we should do our very best to integrate it with more advanced systems in urban areas.