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Psychosis and psychopathy are distinct, for what it's worth.
by GavinMcG 5y ago
Psychosis and psychopathy are distinct, for what it's worth.
- handol 5y agoThe article seems to treat psychosis, psychotic symptoms, and Schizophrenia as though they all refer to the same thing.
- GavinMcG 5y agoBut not psychopathy.
- nextaccountic 5y agoPsychopathy isn't a medical diagnosis but it generally refers to antisocial personality disorder, which doesn't include psychosis in its diagnosis criteria.
- ma2rten 5y agoI think it's a common misconception that Psychopathy refers to antisocial personality disorder. It's a related but distinct concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist
- euthymiclabs 5y agoWhich is how people think clinically. Schizophrenia spectrum disorders are the most common forms of lasting psychosis. Psychopathy isn't related.
- runawaybottle 5y agoThey are distinct, but the ego’s attempt to rationalize what they are experiencing is often part of the same framework. Paranoia, delusions of grandeur, narcissism, me-against-the-world (victom-playing). Drug abuse, criminality, and to a lesser extent - sheer failure at something, also lead to this framework. I failed this class because the education system sucks, I’m burnt out at work because my company sucks, etc. It’s so difficult to explain what’s happening, but somehow, across a variety of circumstances and pathologies, a similar framework emerges. It’s curiously a human crutch. I don’t envy shrinks, as they are confronted by the same framework by wildly different psychological explanations. And, it’s there job to find the dangerous ones that show up, needles in the haystack.
- TheOtherHobbes 5y agoYou're conflating different things that are unrelated. Symptomatically, personality disorders are basically relational dysfunctions. Some are developed as compensations for barely having an ego at all. They're fairly well documented. The most shocking thing for outsiders is realising how alien they are. People with no knowledge of psychology literally cannot imagine how it's possible for people with these issues to lie consistently without guilt, act without empathy, and have conversations that appear coherent but make no sense at all relationally. Drug abuse is a different issue with a much wider range of causes. Burn out and educational failures are real issues and can be caused by real external problems. Someone who has a poor teacher objectively, or even just a teacher who is a bad fit, does not have the same psychology as someone who persuades themselves all teachers are bad because teaching itself is evil.
- runawaybottle 5y agoSo, what are you implying, that shrinks know exactly who is off their rocker within a few sessions?
- GavinMcG 5y agoNo, they seem to be implying that your armchair analysis that seems to boil down to "everything is part of the same framework" is simplistic at best.
- perl4ever 5y ago>realising how alien they are You can't dehumanize someone and claim to understand them simultaneously. It's logically incoherent to draw a conclusion from a failure to understand. When I try to understand people, I start by assuming that they, like everyone, have an inner self with the golden rule hardwired at a very basic level, and anything appearing to violate that is an illusion creating by coping behavior, distortions in perceptions, or something. Psychic pain being prioritized over everything else can make the resulting behavior very confusing. Also, since I'm not a professional psychologist I don't have to pretend I understand when I don't.
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