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For everyone calling people idiots who have an opposing view. This is a fascinating paper on those with the opposing view. “their approach to the pandemic is g

For everyone calling people idiots who have an opposing view. This is a fascinating paper on those with the opposing view. “their approach to the pandemic is grounded in more scientific rigor, not less.” https://centipedenation.com/transmissions/mit-study-finds-that-anti-maskers-are-anything-but-unscientific/ https://centipedenation.com/transmissions/mit-study-finds-th... How about we not label anyone idiots and simply debate the data? Whatever your perspective, maybe there is data you haven't seen.

standardUser 5y ago
That is about masks with no mention of vaccines, and I hope that any person truly interested in the topic would understand that masks are not settled science. Vaccines however have bene proven safe and effective over and over and over with virtually no contradictory data. It is settled science (though not all the details obviously).
- 13years 5y ago
  We are not talking about vaccines other than covid. Do you think those who question vaccines are very different group of people than those who question masks and are using different methodologies to do so?
  - standardUser 5y ago
    I'm saying that those who question masks (what the article is about) have a leg to stand on. Those who question the COVID vaccines do not, in terms of data or quality studies.
    - 13years 5y ago
      Are you aware the the inventor of the mRNA Covid vaccines is questioning the data and studies?
      - standardUser 5y ago
        I would hope all professionals in the field question the data and the studies. I also hope they don't draw unsubstantiated conclusions that directly contradict the available evidence.
        13years 5y ago
        That's not an answer to the question. You asserted there is no legitimate criticism. Which is it? Do you think there is legitimate criticism of this vaccine? Are you aware of it?
        standardUser 5y ago
        I am not aware of any compelling data that shows the vaccines used in the US are either unsafe or ineffective. I am aware of mountains of evidence showing the vaccines to be very safe and very effective. UPDATE: For those curious about the YouTube link below, it is not true that 25,000 people have died from the vaccines. There have been precisely 3 confirmed deaths directly related to vaccines in the US, all J&J and all for the same reason (which professionals are now aware of and is no longer considered a serious risk).
        13years 5y ago
        Don't you think it odd that you are not aware of concerns from the very person who created the technology? In case you get curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY UPDATE: Whatever you do, don't look for yourself or question the narrative. If you believe the parent update, then it is the safest vaccine ever made and the VAERS data would have to be nearly 100% wrong. What are the statistical odds of that?
        cmrdporcupine 5y ago
        He is not the "inventor of the mRNA vaccine" https://www.logically.ai/articles/who-is-dr.-robert-malone https://www.logically.ai/articles/who-is-dr.-robert-malone You are spreading disinformation.

standardUser 5y ago

That is about masks with no mention of vaccines, and I hope that any person truly interested in the topic would understand that masks are not settled science. Vaccines however have bene proven safe and effective over and over and over with virtually no contradictory data. It is settled science (though not all the details obviously).

13years 5y ago
We are not talking about vaccines other than covid. Do you think those who question vaccines are very different group of people than those who question masks and are using different methodologies to do so?
- standardUser 5y ago
  I'm saying that those who question masks (what the article is about) have a leg to stand on. Those who question the COVID vaccines do not, in terms of data or quality studies.
  - 13years 5y ago
    Are you aware the the inventor of the mRNA Covid vaccines is questioning the data and studies?
    - standardUser 5y ago
      I would hope all professionals in the field question the data and the studies. I also hope they don't draw unsubstantiated conclusions that directly contradict the available evidence.
      - 13years 5y ago
        That's not an answer to the question. You asserted there is no legitimate criticism. Which is it? Do you think there is legitimate criticism of this vaccine? Are you aware of it?
        standardUser 5y ago
        I am not aware of any compelling data that shows the vaccines used in the US are either unsafe or ineffective. I am aware of mountains of evidence showing the vaccines to be very safe and very effective. UPDATE: For those curious about the YouTube link below, it is not true that 25,000 people have died from the vaccines. There have been precisely 3 confirmed deaths directly related to vaccines in the US, all J&J and all for the same reason (which professionals are now aware of and is no longer considered a serious risk).
        13years 5y ago
        Don't you think it odd that you are not aware of concerns from the very person who created the technology? In case you get curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY UPDATE: Whatever you do, don't look for yourself or question the narrative. If you believe the parent update, then it is the safest vaccine ever made and the VAERS data would have to be nearly 100% wrong. What are the statistical odds of that?
        cmrdporcupine 5y ago
        He is not the "inventor of the mRNA vaccine" https://www.logically.ai/articles/who-is-dr.-robert-malone https://www.logically.ai/articles/who-is-dr.-robert-malone You are spreading disinformation.