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In Germany the Paul Ehrlich Institute has received 871 reports of deaths after vaccination. Most of them are from elderly people, but there are also a bunch of

by yarcob 5y ago

In Germany the Paul Ehrlich Institute has received 871 reports of deaths after vaccination. Most of them are from elderly people, but there are also a bunch of young people who have likely died from side effects. PEI reports 21 people under 40 who died from thrombosis after Astra Zeneca. Biontech and Moderna had other side effects (myocarditis for young men), and also a bunch of young deaths. Johnson is not common enough in Germany to make any reasonable judgements. Severe side effects (not deaths) are around 0,2 per 1000 shots. (reported side effects, actual number may be higher) Source (in German): https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers/sicherheitsberichte/sicherheitsbericht-27-12-bis-31-05-21.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=7 https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers...

throwawayboise 5y ago
How many German people under 40 die from thrombosis or suffer myocarditis in an average year? This year, when everyone is getting vaccinated, it's easy to draw unwarranted conclusions that rare conditions are being trigged by the vaccine when it could possibly be just cooincidence.
- yarcob 5y ago
  To the best of my knowledge, the fact that thrombosis is a (rare) side effect of Astra Zeneca and Johnson is pretty thoroughly established. It's a pretty specific type of thrombosis, and afaik it doesn't occur eg. for the Biontech and Moderna vaccines. I know there's a lot of misinformation about the vaccines going the rounds, but that doesn't mean that all reports of side effects are made up or statistical noise.
PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
Good information, but those numbers always need to be traded off against the number of people who (a) would have died anyway (b) would have died from COVID19 had they not been vaccinated.

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In Germany the Paul Ehrlich Institute has received 871 reports of deaths after vaccination. Most of them are from elderly people, but there are also a bunch of

by yarcob 5y ago

throwawayboise 5y ago
How many German people under 40 die from thrombosis or suffer myocarditis in an average year? This year, when everyone is getting vaccinated, it's easy to draw unwarranted conclusions that rare conditions are being trigged by the vaccine when it could possibly be just cooincidence.
- yarcob 5y ago
  To the best of my knowledge, the fact that thrombosis is a (rare) side effect of Astra Zeneca and Johnson is pretty thoroughly established. It's a pretty specific type of thrombosis, and afaik it doesn't occur eg. for the Biontech and Moderna vaccines. I know there's a lot of misinformation about the vaccines going the rounds, but that doesn't mean that all reports of side effects are made up or statistical noise.
PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
Good information, but those numbers always need to be traded off against the number of people who (a) would have died anyway (b) would have died from COVID19 had they not been vaccinated.