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The vast majority of the world does not have effective mRNA-type vaccines, and have outbreaks following mass vaccination of ineffective ones (and in some cases,

by ev1 5y ago

The vast majority of the world does not have effective mRNA-type vaccines, and have outbreaks following mass vaccination of ineffective ones (and in some cases, fraudulent locals use saline). Kids cannot receive it yet, as much as they want to, and there are numerous parents explicitly refusing their kids the consent to be vaccinated. The more spread, the more dice get rolled on creating further deficiencies in vaccination success. Honestly, my opinion - if everyone could be vaccinated and the vaccine was always 100% effective 100% of the time without exception, I would not care at all about "individual choice" or "I don't want to take it", I would not care about the extra mutations being created, I would not care about being next to an unvaccinated individual at all.

umvi 5y ago
> Kids cannot receive it yet, as much as they want to Do kids even need it? I was under the impression that child covid deaths (or even just severe reactions to the disease) were incredibly rare.
- ev1 5y ago
  They were relatively rare, until Delta. Kids are also germ factories that will wipe it on everything and anything. I'll point out that when we talk about how "oh it'll only be bad if you have comorbidities too", I'm pretty sure more than 75% of the US qualifies as having those. I'm not paranoid by any means, and I don't want vaccine apps or centralised databases to exist (anonymously signed timestamped attestations maybe), but the vaccines are not 100%, and my risk model dislikes being stuck next to someone dumping out virions for over 8 hours a day with recirculating air. [side note: I've also worked retail in the past and that taught me to never trust the general public, and that some idiot parent absolutely will bring a kid in with measles, norovirus, and smallpox in at the same time while lying about how they're healthy so they don't get charged a $10 cancellation fee.]
- 13years 5y ago
  "Disease experts say kids don't seem to be developing more severe COVID-19 cases as a result of the Delta variant " https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-covid-risk-to-children-kids-2021-6?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-covid-risk-to-...

by ev1 5y ago

umvi 5y ago

> Kids cannot receive it yet, as much as they want to Do kids even need it? I was under the impression that child covid deaths (or even just severe reactions to the disease) were incredibly rare.

ev1 5y ago
They were relatively rare, until Delta. Kids are also germ factories that will wipe it on everything and anything. I'll point out that when we talk about how "oh it'll only be bad if you have comorbidities too", I'm pretty sure more than 75% of the US qualifies as having those. I'm not paranoid by any means, and I don't want vaccine apps or centralised databases to exist (anonymously signed timestamped attestations maybe), but the vaccines are not 100%, and my risk model dislikes being stuck next to someone dumping out virions for over 8 hours a day with recirculating air. [side note: I've also worked retail in the past and that taught me to never trust the general public, and that some idiot parent absolutely will bring a kid in with measles, norovirus, and smallpox in at the same time while lying about how they're healthy so they don't get charged a $10 cancellation fee.]
13years 5y ago
"Disease experts say kids don't seem to be developing more severe COVID-19 cases as a result of the Delta variant " https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-covid-risk-to-children-kids-2021-6?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-covid-risk-to-...