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There are more types of RNA than just mRNA. https://www.livescience.com/25988-rna-versatile-molecules.html https://www.livescience.com/25988-rna-versatile-molec

There are more types of RNA than just mRNA. https://www.livescience.com/25988-rna-versatile-molecules.html https://www.livescience.com/25988-rna-versatile-molecules.ht... I'm not an expert so I'm not going to speculate which type might be used, but the risk that the government is using (soon to be mandatory) shots as a way to insert a biological backdoor into the masses far outweighs the risk of catching covid again. They want backdoors into all software systems... why wouldn't they want a backdoor into your biology? If not now, then what about when we're on our 5th booster? If I was dying on my bed from some crazy variant that the government was fearmongering, I would still think that my risk assessment was valid. I'd have no regrets.

majormajor 5y ago
You shouldn't be willing to have any shot if that's your perception of the threat level. Why create a back door when you're literally opening a front door through the shot? Who gives a shit if it claims to be mRNA or not in that scenario? Don't breathe unfiltered air either. Why not just distribute this backdoor as an aerosol?
- halfjoking 5y ago
  It's a new technology with new capabilities. That's why VCs are investing billions in RNA tech to treat disease. I'd take the Chinese one because China open-sources their inactive virus vaccine and exports raw materials to other nations to manufacture them: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-01/12/c_139661608.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-01/12/c_139661608.htm A plot to add some "secret sauce" to a vaccine wouldn't work in that scenario. Bill Gates on the other hand has said it's impossible for others to manufacture these vaccines because "safety and security issues": https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/bill-gates-believes-covid-19-vaccine-tech-should-not-be-given-to-india-what-he-said-and-why-he-said-it-1798357-2021-05-03 https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/bill-gates-b... I think that's BS. If the vaccine is free - why isn't it open-source? If it's not open-source, why should I trust it?
  - majormajor 5y ago
    You're literally worrying about the security of them and yet claiming someone else being worried about the security of them is spouting BS. I think there's a major lack of internal consistency. You're hyper-worried about one specific threat that relies on a huge unpublished technological leap to create biological backdoors, yet... you aren't worried about other potential unknown tech (e.g. if the government wants new-tech mind control backdoors, they could also research building them as aerosol viruses instead of injected ones, because then the lack of traceability is very attractive compared even with harder delivery) or about other actors abusing the vector of another shot you want (and let's be real - there are security holes in open source software projects all the time!).
    - halfjoking 5y ago
      Yeah I agree I'm worrying too much - it's basically ruining my life. I don't want to sign a lease for an apartment because I think I'm fleeing the country or losing my job. So I admit it. I am paranoid about the US government - but I have reason to given the Snowden leaks and how they treat Assange. So let's say they are pure evil, and wanted to do aerosols... well maybe they tried that already, but the chemtrails didn't work out. Maybe Chemtrails were too inefficient as a delivery mechanism. How would they ensure 100% coverage? When they are manufacturing billions of doses to deploy in planes, how would they justify the cost? How would they get it delivered to citizens of other countries? How would they hide what they're doing from everyone given the huge amount of manufacturing needed? The only way to insert a biological backdoor is to hide it in plain sight. To make it a vaccine that everyone, worldwide, including those already infected with the virus absolutely needs.
      - majormajor 5y ago
        I don't think you'd deploy aerosols from planes... you'd do it in AC systems and such... but this is insanity in part because of Snowden and Assange. If they had some magic reprogramming tech, those (or other similar cases) would be perfect examples for testing it. Or hell, we could've started to reprogram Trump while he was in the hospital and saved everyone a lot of trouble.

majormajor 5y ago

You shouldn't be willing to have any shot if that's your perception of the threat level. Why create a back door when you're literally opening a front door through the shot? Who gives a shit if it claims to be mRNA or not in that scenario? Don't breathe unfiltered air either. Why not just distribute this backdoor as an aerosol?

halfjoking 5y ago
It's a new technology with new capabilities. That's why VCs are investing billions in RNA tech to treat disease. I'd take the Chinese one because China open-sources their inactive virus vaccine and exports raw materials to other nations to manufacture them: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-01/12/c_139661608.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-01/12/c_139661608.htm A plot to add some "secret sauce" to a vaccine wouldn't work in that scenario. Bill Gates on the other hand has said it's impossible for others to manufacture these vaccines because "safety and security issues": https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/bill-gates-believes-covid-19-vaccine-tech-should-not-be-given-to-india-what-he-said-and-why-he-said-it-1798357-2021-05-03 https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/bill-gates-b... I think that's BS. If the vaccine is free - why isn't it open-source? If it's not open-source, why should I trust it?
- majormajor 5y ago
  You're literally worrying about the security of them and yet claiming someone else being worried about the security of them is spouting BS. I think there's a major lack of internal consistency. You're hyper-worried about one specific threat that relies on a huge unpublished technological leap to create biological backdoors, yet... you aren't worried about other potential unknown tech (e.g. if the government wants new-tech mind control backdoors, they could also research building them as aerosol viruses instead of injected ones, because then the lack of traceability is very attractive compared even with harder delivery) or about other actors abusing the vector of another shot you want (and let's be real - there are security holes in open source software projects all the time!).
  - halfjoking 5y ago
    Yeah I agree I'm worrying too much - it's basically ruining my life. I don't want to sign a lease for an apartment because I think I'm fleeing the country or losing my job. So I admit it. I am paranoid about the US government - but I have reason to given the Snowden leaks and how they treat Assange. So let's say they are pure evil, and wanted to do aerosols... well maybe they tried that already, but the chemtrails didn't work out. Maybe Chemtrails were too inefficient as a delivery mechanism. How would they ensure 100% coverage? When they are manufacturing billions of doses to deploy in planes, how would they justify the cost? How would they get it delivered to citizens of other countries? How would they hide what they're doing from everyone given the huge amount of manufacturing needed? The only way to insert a biological backdoor is to hide it in plain sight. To make it a vaccine that everyone, worldwide, including those already infected with the virus absolutely needs.
    - majormajor 5y ago
      I don't think you'd deploy aerosols from planes... you'd do it in AC systems and such... but this is insanity in part because of Snowden and Assange. If they had some magic reprogramming tech, those (or other similar cases) would be perfect examples for testing it. Or hell, we could've started to reprogram Trump while he was in the hospital and saved everyone a lot of trouble.