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> Do you have any evidence to suggest a risk with the mRNA delivery vehicle? My point is, an appeal to history does not work when you are dealing with somethin

> Do you have any evidence to suggest a risk with the mRNA delivery vehicle? My point is, an appeal to history does not work when you are dealing with something new. By the way, how long have we had vaccines based on adenovirus vectors?

ericmay 5y ago
> My point is, an appeal to history does not work when you are dealing with something new. I'm not appealing to history. I'm appealing to the science of creating vaccines. Do you take no vaccines? You could apply the same argument to the measles or flu vaccine. Nobody did until now. > By the way, how long have we had vaccines based on adenovirus vectors? Can you articulate in a scientific manner why an adenovirus would be treated differently as it relates to the creation of vaccines and the body's response to them?
- tome 5y ago
  > Can you articulate in a scientific manner why an adenovirus would be treated differently as it relates to the creation of vaccines and the body's response to them? For whatever reason that is not the prevailing method when it comes to regulating new medical interventions.
  - ericmay 5y ago
    I'll take that as a no.
    - tome 5y ago
      You're welcome to. However, I'm curious why your question is relevant. I can't articulate a scientific reason that thalidomide caused birth defects, for example.
      - ericmay 5y ago
        > You're welcome to. However, I'm curious why your question is relevant. I can't articulate a scientific reason that thalidomide caused birth defects, for example. You're admitting that you don't know or understand the science of either COVID-19 vaccines or thalidomide-caused birth defects (really it's going to be for lots of other medical things too let's face it), so why are you questioning only COVID-19 vaccines and not other things? Why aren't you waking up tomorrow and saying smoking doesn't cause cancer? Why aren't you skeptical of that claim too?
        tome 5y ago
        Huh? What makes you think I'm questioning COVID-19 vaccines more than other things? My general approach is to be cautious around putting anything in the body that humans haven't been doing for thousands of years, although to live in the modern world makes that difficult, sometimes mere years has to be enough.
        ericmay 5y ago
        But you have no ability to be in a position to judge whether one vaccine is better than another if you don't understand the science behind them. I'd recommend doing what your doctor says, if you have one. If not you might want to consider speaking with one about vaccine safety and the safety and risks of things like ibuprofen or cough medicine.

ericmay 5y ago

> My point is, an appeal to history does not work when you are dealing with something new. I'm not appealing to history. I'm appealing to the science of creating vaccines. Do you take no vaccines? You could apply the same argument to the measles or flu vaccine. Nobody did until now. > By the way, how long have we had vaccines based on adenovirus vectors? Can you articulate in a scientific manner why an adenovirus would be treated differently as it relates to the creation of vaccines and the body's response to them?

tome 5y ago
> Can you articulate in a scientific manner why an adenovirus would be treated differently as it relates to the creation of vaccines and the body's response to them? For whatever reason that is not the prevailing method when it comes to regulating new medical interventions.
- ericmay 5y ago
  I'll take that as a no.
  - tome 5y ago
    You're welcome to. However, I'm curious why your question is relevant. I can't articulate a scientific reason that thalidomide caused birth defects, for example.
    - ericmay 5y ago
      > You're welcome to. However, I'm curious why your question is relevant. I can't articulate a scientific reason that thalidomide caused birth defects, for example. You're admitting that you don't know or understand the science of either COVID-19 vaccines or thalidomide-caused birth defects (really it's going to be for lots of other medical things too let's face it), so why are you questioning only COVID-19 vaccines and not other things? Why aren't you waking up tomorrow and saying smoking doesn't cause cancer? Why aren't you skeptical of that claim too?
      - tome 5y ago
        Huh? What makes you think I'm questioning COVID-19 vaccines more than other things? My general approach is to be cautious around putting anything in the body that humans haven't been doing for thousands of years, although to live in the modern world makes that difficult, sometimes mere years has to be enough.
        ericmay 5y ago
        But you have no ability to be in a position to judge whether one vaccine is better than another if you don't understand the science behind them. I'd recommend doing what your doctor says, if you have one. If not you might want to consider speaking with one about vaccine safety and the safety and risks of things like ibuprofen or cough medicine.