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I think if you're starting up today you may find easier to find someone who can build you a site with React than with PHP. Or if not today, then give it a few y

by vosper 5y ago

I think if you're starting up today you may find easier to find someone who can build you a site with React than with PHP. Or if not today, then give it a few years. Likewise I think someone starting up for themselves is more likely to be a React programmer than a PHP programmer.

MisterBastahrd 5y ago
I think it's hard to fine good PHP developers. I also think it's damned near impossible to find React developers who are capable of doing anything that isn't React flavored. For those reasons alone, I'd choose PHP over React, especially if I want to scale.
- cutler 5y ago
  Laravel is well-integrated with Vue.js as an option so you might want to look into that.
  - MisterBastahrd 5y ago
    Oh, I know, I'm just poking at the "I know this thing so everything that we deal with must have a solution derived from this thing" crowd. The SAAS company I work for is about to start migrating away from the monolithic framework we have to a tiered services architecture, and we'll be using laravel because it meets our needs.
- vosper 5y ago
  If the argument is that clients don't care (the comment I was replying to) then why would it matter to them that their develoeprs struggle with things that aren't React-flavored? Especially in 2021, when you can build just about anything on the web and stay within the React ecosystem.
  - MisterBastahrd 5y ago
    Because real businesses that generate real revenue through software processes usually require more than tinker-toy websites built on a teetering pyramid of dependencies.
    - tlackemann 5y ago
      Couldn't agree more. The people who are against using PHP are those who never used it and think they are being clever and ahead-of-the-curve by bashing it.
      - vosper 5y ago
        Who said they were against PHP? I'm just said there are probably more React developers around these days than PHP ones, thus it's probably easier to hire from that pool.

by vosper 5y ago

MisterBastahrd 5y ago

I think it's hard to fine good PHP developers. I also think it's damned near impossible to find React developers who are capable of doing anything that isn't React flavored. For those reasons alone, I'd choose PHP over React, especially if I want to scale.

cutler 5y ago
Laravel is well-integrated with Vue.js as an option so you might want to look into that.
- MisterBastahrd 5y ago
  Oh, I know, I'm just poking at the "I know this thing so everything that we deal with must have a solution derived from this thing" crowd. The SAAS company I work for is about to start migrating away from the monolithic framework we have to a tiered services architecture, and we'll be using laravel because it meets our needs.
vosper 5y ago
If the argument is that clients don't care (the comment I was replying to) then why would it matter to them that their develoeprs struggle with things that aren't React-flavored? Especially in 2021, when you can build just about anything on the web and stay within the React ecosystem.
- MisterBastahrd 5y ago
  Because real businesses that generate real revenue through software processes usually require more than tinker-toy websites built on a teetering pyramid of dependencies.
  - tlackemann 5y ago
    Couldn't agree more. The people who are against using PHP are those who never used it and think they are being clever and ahead-of-the-curve by bashing it.
    - vosper 5y ago
      Who said they were against PHP? I'm just said there are probably more React developers around these days than PHP ones, thus it's probably easier to hire from that pool.