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If I wanted to buy a block for speculation (thus helping accelerate ipv6), would it need to be crazy large to even be worth it? I imagine the buyers are less in

If I wanted to buy a block for speculation (thus helping accelerate ipv6), would it need to be crazy large to even be worth it? I imagine the buyers are less interested in 4000 ips here, 200 ips there, right? Like they’ll want /16, /8, etc?

oarsinsync 5y ago
> If I wanted to buy a block for speculation (thus helping accelerate ipv6) IPv4 sells for ~$40/IP right now. The smallest block you can buy that is Internet routable is a /24. If you're buying, you're likely buying from another speculator, so you're not helping accelerate anything, you're simply a(nother) middle man in a (series of) sale(s) of a commodity, looking to profit until the block eventually gets sold to a user. None of that is said with any judgement, mind, as I've traded a /22 of IPv4 space for quite a handsome profit over the last few years. Just don't pretend there's any altruism or benefit to anyone else from your speculative activities.
- JamesSwift 5y ago
  Is the speculation actually possible? I keep reading conflicting opinions. Some say anyone can buy a block via auction, but some say even then you need to be vetted as a "valid" owner by the registry themself. What was your experience?
  - oarsinsync 5y ago
    I became a member of my regional internet registry (RIPE).
AgentK20 5y ago
Per ARIN (and pretty much all regional RIR) rules you're not allowed to purchase IPV4 space without proving the need for it, with a moderately thorough review process (https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm//#8-5-specified-transfer-recipient-requirements https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm//#8-5-specified...) Any other purchase reason is likely to result in ARIN pulling your "ownership" entirely when they discover it. From what I understand most of what's being sold off right now on ipv4 auctions are from companies who had too much IPV4 that they no longer need, or companies that were liquidated.
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oarsinsync 5y ago

> If I wanted to buy a block for speculation (thus helping accelerate ipv6) IPv4 sells for ~$40/IP right now. The smallest block you can buy that is Internet routable is a /24. If you're buying, you're likely buying from another speculator, so you're not helping accelerate anything, you're simply a(nother) middle man in a (series of) sale(s) of a commodity, looking to profit until the block eventually gets sold to a user. None of that is said with any judgement, mind, as I've traded a /22 of IPv4 space for quite a handsome profit over the last few years. Just don't pretend there's any altruism or benefit to anyone else from your speculative activities.

JamesSwift 5y ago
Is the speculation actually possible? I keep reading conflicting opinions. Some say anyone can buy a block via auction, but some say even then you need to be vetted as a "valid" owner by the registry themself. What was your experience?
- oarsinsync 5y ago
  I became a member of my regional internet registry (RIPE).

AgentK20 5y ago

Per ARIN (and pretty much all regional RIR) rules you're not allowed to purchase IPV4 space without proving the need for it, with a moderately thorough review process (https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm//#8-5-specified-transfer-recipient-requirements https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm//#8-5-specified...) Any other purchase reason is likely to result in ARIN pulling your "ownership" entirely when they discover it. From what I understand most of what's being sold off right now on ipv4 auctions are from companies who had too much IPV4 that they no longer need, or companies that were liquidated.

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