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there's simply no way to build cities in a way that accomodates bears or cougars, because they need a territory far larger than the area we could possibly provi

there's simply no way to build cities in a way that accomodates bears or cougars, because they need a territory far larger than the area we could possibly provide in a city. building for cougars or bears means building dense cities that perserve as much wild space outside the city as possible for animal habitats. i like the idea of adapting buildings to be less hostile to animals that find themselves in the city, but anything that increases sprawl is the worst thing you could possibly do for wildlife.

Schiendelman 5y ago
I appreciate seeing more people understand that density is our way to preservation. Thank you! :)
- bigthymer 5y ago
  I think it is starting to be one of those things that most people on this site have come around to realizing. I'm eager to see whether it permeates the rest of society and what actions we start taking in that direction.
sandworm101 5y ago
I lived in a neighborhood (Vancouver) where bears were regular back yard visitors. Cougars were around but rarely seen. Many California suburbs seem to get alone with local predator populations. I think the key is not to fence things off in a manner than gives them no easy escape route when confronted.
- asdff 5y ago
  The big issue with California and predators is in what they end up eating in the suburbs: trash and poisoned rats. A lot of businesses in CA have a box in the back full of rat poison. The rat eats that then walks off and dies someplace, the coyote/couger/bear/owl/hawk/vulture finds the carcass, eats the poison, and also dies. There aren't many sources of high quality food in CA suburbs for predators. You don't get large populations of deer, like in suburbs out east that were clearcut from forest, since suburbs in CA are developed out of farmland or pasture or oil fields generally and there isn't much habitat surrounding most of these developments that support larger game populations like out east (compare satellite imagery of Sacramento to Cleveland and see how stark the differences in forest cover are in CA vs a typical eastern city.
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Schiendelman 5y ago

I appreciate seeing more people understand that density is our way to preservation. Thank you! :)

bigthymer 5y ago
I think it is starting to be one of those things that most people on this site have come around to realizing. I'm eager to see whether it permeates the rest of society and what actions we start taking in that direction.

sandworm101 5y ago

I lived in a neighborhood (Vancouver) where bears were regular back yard visitors. Cougars were around but rarely seen. Many California suburbs seem to get alone with local predator populations. I think the key is not to fence things off in a manner than gives them no easy escape route when confronted.

asdff 5y ago
The big issue with California and predators is in what they end up eating in the suburbs: trash and poisoned rats. A lot of businesses in CA have a box in the back full of rat poison. The rat eats that then walks off and dies someplace, the coyote/couger/bear/owl/hawk/vulture finds the carcass, eats the poison, and also dies. There aren't many sources of high quality food in CA suburbs for predators. You don't get large populations of deer, like in suburbs out east that were clearcut from forest, since suburbs in CA are developed out of farmland or pasture or oil fields generally and there isn't much habitat surrounding most of these developments that support larger game populations like out east (compare satellite imagery of Sacramento to Cleveland and see how stark the differences in forest cover are in CA vs a typical eastern city.
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